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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

White guys make up a large chunk of the population. There are white guys that have some of the same problems that are harming minorities as well. Poverty, addiction, mental and physical health, inflation, an unfavorable jobs market, and so on.

They see a democratic party that is at best useless at addressing these problems, when they admit that they exist at all. At worst, they see a party that is dismissive and hostile to these concerns, and to them personally. In contrast, they see a republican party that is full of welcoming con artists who will happily tell them that all their problems spring from minorities.

Neither side is offering actual solutions, but republicans are acknowledging that the problems exist, even if they're offering false solutions.

So white guys keep falling for con artists. No one else is offering them anything.

[–] svullo56@feddit.nu -1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

In a society where white men are favored they still have that. Which isn't a small thing! They will probably always win if put up against women or people of color when looking for jobs.

I bet a lot of the minorities would prefer to be a white man to have it easier in life.

Kind of ironic saying they have nothing and then automatically being accepted in the fine boys club which fight for their kinds right to stay in a superior place in society.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

In a society where white men are favored they still have that. Which isn’t a small thing! They will probably always win if put up against women or people of color when looking for jobs.

The problems I listed all disproportionately impact minorities, and addressing them will disproportionately benefit minorities. Failing to address them out of spite for white men disproportionately harms minorities. But hey, you sure showed those white men that you're willing to harm minorities to get to them.

If you want white men to stop following con artists, you need to credibly solve problems that they're facing, or they'll believe the first con artist that comes along that wants them to blame minorities for their problems, which adds fuel to existing oppression.

I bet a lot of the minorities would prefer to be a white man to have it easier in life.

Yeah, probably. They have it worse off and I never said otherwise. Thing is, what democrats usually do in this situation isn't to solve the actual problems. It's to look at the bigoted false solutions offered by republican con artists and put forth watered down versions of those, breaking solidarity with minorities in the process. What this doesn't do is peel off the votes of white men who have been suckered by con artists. You can't beat false solutions with a lesser version of the same false solution.

Kind of ironic saying they have nothing and then automatically being accepted in the powerful fine boys club which fight for their kinds right to stay in a superior place in society.

I'm saying that democrats are leaving votes on the table that they could get if they wanted them, without throwing minorities under the bus like they've been doing.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Why I left the left? I used to be a radical leftist, who believed in radical ideas like and , but then I went through and also got falsely accused of rape after having sex with a drunken woman, so I became a moderate christian conservative who believes in , , and <literal nazi thing, but "extermination" is replaced with "removal from society">.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes it feels like the term male privilege is just a way to tell men to suck it up, don't cry, keep your feelings bottle up on the inside. Meanwhile, hypocritically being against toxic masculinity.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

It is. It's the patriarchy subsuming criticism and repurposing it for it's own ends.

[–] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That applies to white women as well

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

Im pretty sure the programming you are supposed to get is that white men is the problem. Women are just strong when they are abusive. Didnt you get the memo about this?

[–] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We don't need ragebait in this world.

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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

As a white guy, I have the kind of privilege that allows me enough space to realize that I'm sad. Hell, I could probably just walk up to a cop and tell them I'm sad, and they'd offer me some horrible, but well-meaning advice.

But when I mention my Judaism, something interesting might happen. Especially if I told them that my Zionist family lives in Israel. But the real excitement will start when I say "free Palestine."

But the saddest part of all is that I could say nothing, and just be white, and no one will give a fuck. It's mostly sad because I'm incapable of saying nothing.

[–] percent@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm pretty sure every cop that I've ever met (in the US, anyway) would be indifferent to anything in that second paragraph. It would be such a wildly uninteresting encounter for most of them, they'd forget about it by the end of their shift.

[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

That was quite the rollercoaster and I've got a complex bundle of sympathy and relating going on (as a kiwi, not the Zionism)

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Being sad that black people are in movies isn't oppression

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But what if I'm stupid or racist? Or both?

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Is it even possible to be racist and not to be stupid? I understand the concept, but in practice it always seems like a package deal.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 hours ago

Well, some scientists came up with races and they probably weren’t stupid

[–] garbage_world@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (6 children)
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