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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

In a society where white men are favored they still have that. Which isn’t a small thing! They will probably always win if put up against women or people of color when looking for jobs.

The problems I listed all disproportionately impact minorities, and addressing them will disproportionately benefit minorities. Failing to address them out of spite for white men disproportionately harms minorities. But hey, you sure showed those white men that you're willing to harm minorities to get to them.

If you want white men to stop following con artists, you need to credibly solve problems that they're facing, or they'll believe the first con artist that comes along that wants them to blame minorities for their problems, which adds fuel to existing oppression.

I bet a lot of the minorities would prefer to be a white man to have it easier in life.

Yeah, probably. They have it worse off and I never said otherwise. Thing is, what democrats usually do in this situation isn't to solve the actual problems. It's to look at the bigoted false solutions offered by republican con artists and put forth watered down versions of those, breaking solidarity with minorities in the process. What this doesn't do is peel off the votes of white men who have been suckered by con artists. You can't beat false solutions with a lesser version of the same false solution.

Kind of ironic saying they have nothing and then automatically being accepted in the powerful fine boys club which fight for their kinds right to stay in a superior place in society.

I'm saying that democrats are leaving votes on the table that they could get if they wanted them, without throwing minorities under the bus like they've been doing.

[–] svullo56@feddit.nu -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Well I've never said that one should punish white men out of spite. Those are your words.

But again. Kinda ironic that the way for minorities to get it better is to make sure poor white men have it better first. Isn't this the problem tho?

I don't care about democrats or republicans. That system is flawed to the core. It's built to keep this power balance who ever you decide to vote for. Or to be honest, don't vote at all because it's rigged for people to not be able to vote.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Kinda ironic that the way for minorities to get it better is to make sure poor white men have it better first.

Who said anything about first? If you make things better for minorities by addressing problems that disproportionately harm them, some white men will also see their problems solved. Why not use that as a selling point?

You'd rather solve nothing in case help goes to people you want to punish. You'd much rather con artists flourish.