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Linux is a 2nd Amendment rights issue because of the whole "right to bear arms" wording in the Constitution of my country. I can explain what that means in greater detail, but you get it. (lemmy.world)
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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well unfortunately there are age restrictions and FBI background checks that have been deemed constitutional in regards to the 2nd Amendment, so I don't think that'll get you out of PC age checks, might get you NICs checks for internet though if your goal is restricting it further. That would also make import PCs have to follow 922(r) compliance which we do not have the manufacturing for.

Imagine though; CA, VA, MA, CT, IL, NY, NJ, WA, all limit you to 10gb of ram, no more of those "high capacity" sticks. Permit to simply own a PC in IL, MA, NY, NJ. Laptops can't be bought out of state or they have to be shipped to a licensed PC dealer in your state, Desktops depends on state. Private sale of PCs in some states is legal, but in others requires you both to visit a licensed PC dealer and pay a fee. In CA only PCs on "the roster" by name and individual model are legal, unless you work for the government then you can have whatever. In some states you don't need a license to carry a laptop, in some states you do but all it takes is a course on responsible internet use, in some states you have to demonstrate your need to carry a laptop. If you don't have a license to carry, you must lock it in your trunk until you get to the nearest Starbucks® Internet Range.

[–] nothingworked@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

it will just get worse in terms of privacy abuse, i'm telling you

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I'm not saying it's a good thing, if that was how you took my comment lmao. I'm just saying even if the 2A applied to computers, that alone just makes it worse.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 9 points 19 hours ago

I would also consider encryption to be a 2nd Amendment issue as well, on account of it being considered a munition back in the 90's or thereabouts. IMO, it is important for everyone to have arms, be it cryptographic or martial.

[–] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 16 hours ago

Happy that I bought one of their devices

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 66 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How about instead of fighting to be excluded, fight against the very concept of age verification?

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 10 points 1 day ago

That's how you fight it. Carve out legal exceptions that others can follow

[–] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What have you done so far? Anything we can help with?

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 27 points 1 day ago

Contact your representatives, donate to the EFF, etc.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

And you, what have you done?

Me, I’m just mad, mad bunny…

Seriously, what can we do? What can be done, that would bave a meaningful, positive impact?

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Up and downvote things on Lemmy, or leaving a comment can really help too.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Well that's a relief.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it's funny that the people who disagree with you downvote you despite feeling that downvotes are meaningless, there's something delightfully ironic about that

edit: this comment being downvoted is also very funny

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Is GNU Linux actually an operating system? Yeah stupid question but since it's not a monolithic OS and it's made from lots of programmes you can change in between. Also is Arch or Gentoo system providers? They don't actually provide the OS but instructions on how to install it and a tool for that.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 9 points 19 hours ago

Based on what I've read of the California law (AFAIK, the Colorado bill is nearly identical), Microsoft, Google, Apple, and vendors of other closed-source commercial software would be considered OS providers. However, vendors of FOSS OSes cannot control what changes the local administrator chooses to make to the OS. The "OS Provider" is the responsible party under these bills; for FOSS software, that person is the end user installing the OS, and not an upstream vendor.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

How would they even both to do this? It is open source, just make the first step of set up to send verification to localhost? Yeah I checked with myself and verified I am who I am, what are you going to do about it? Force me to send it to a specific URL? Nah I'll just check the source code to whatever I want.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What does this have to do with 2nd Amendment rights???

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Because if I have to go back to using Windows, I'm going to put a gun in my mouth?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago

Ah yes now it makes sense! ;-)

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

Mmmmm, Hoppe's No. 9!

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 day ago

Not a lot, even the argument in https://xkcd.com/504/ doesn't really work for this. First Amendment meanwhile…

[–] Ohmmy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed"

Computers could be argued as arms for a well regulated militia. It doesn't have to be a firearm specifically and with how much the US government has legally argued that computers are needed for war, they are technically an armament to the US government.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

If an 2nd American Civil War happens, I think people would be contributing their devices to DDOS attacks against ICE and other Regime forces. Computers really are weapons, if the need arises.

[–] StrongHorseWeakNeigh@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago

I assume rebellion

[–] FudgyMcTubbs@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Backup plan: have age verification included with explicit instructions on how to disable it as a warning to not do so.

The Vine-Glo prohibition tactic: "Do not place the liquid in this jug and put it away in the cupboard for twenty-one days, because then it would turn into wine."

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 5 points 19 hours ago

It would be determined that the OS vendor who included such instructions was not making a "good faith effort" to comply with the law.

IF AN OPERATING SYSTEM PROVIDER OR A COVERED APPLICATION STORE MAKES A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO COMPLY WITH THIS ARTICLE 30 , TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION AVAILABLE TECHNOLOGY AND ANY REASONABLE TECHNICAL LIMITATIONS OR OUTAGES , THE OPERATING SYSTEM PROVIDER OR COVERED APPLICATION STORE IS NOT LIABLE FOR AN ERRONEOUS AGE SIGNAL INDICATING A USER'S AGE RANGE OR FOR CONDUCT BY A DEVELOPER THAT RECEIVES AN AGE SIGNAL INDICATING A USER'S AGE RANGE .

Without a "good faith effort" to comply, they become liable for "intentional" violation, which is a $7500 penalty.

[–] NOPper@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

I only use open source rifles.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Such an exception is important, but won't fix a fundamentally broken law.

The definition of the law is overly broad. Basically any network-connected device falls under this regulation. Like e.g. the DC/AC converter for my solar panels.

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

First amendment, but close enough

[–] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, I think he really does mean Second Amendment. Remember how encryption used to be prohibited from export because it was classified as a munition?

We need Free Software for self-defense against government invasion of our privacy.

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'll acquiesce, I don't fully agree this very second but I'm 90% sure I can be convinced so I'll just give it to ya lol

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I knew there were other examples but I couldn't remember them before and it was nagging at me, but reading your comment now jogged my memory for some reason. Other examples of Free Software as 'weapons' to be protected under the 2^nd^:

[–] rmrf@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Thanks for this, I appreciate the effort :)

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah, awesome for them to try, but an exercise.in futility as people no longer being able to control their own computer is kind of the point