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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

First casualty including or not including gang violence?

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I actually thought (I know, I'm stupid) that Candace genuinely cared about Kirk and was genuinely upset she lost her friend.

But now I see she's just milking his "legacy" for self promotion and grifting attention, just like the Erika.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago

She thinks Israel killed him.

[–] LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Of course she is. That world is entirely populated by grifters.

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[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 23 points 17 hours ago

whenever I get high I just post shit like this

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (9 children)

Who the fuck is Charlie Kirk?

[–] tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

WE ARE πŸ¦…

[–] Restaldt@lemmy.world 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Someone who died for what they believed in

Said belief just happened to be that potentially getting shot in the neck is a small price to pay for everyone to have guns

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

God bless us every one

[–] zenitsu@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A professional propagandist clown for christian nationalism

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, what the hell is "christian"? Are yall fucking with me?

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oho boy, is there ever a story behind that.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

knock knock

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Attention seeker. Loudmouth. Bigot. Gum model.

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[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Who the hell is John f. Kennedy?!?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

She was Captain of the Enterprise after Christopher Pine

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[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sometimes the conspiracy theorists pop out of their echo chamber and make a statement that seems reasonable and widely accepted to them but can only be believed if you first believe 17 layers of propaganda, leaps of logic and generally brainrot. Usually all fed to them by bigots and billionaires.

Then are then surprised by normal people clowning on them and instead of reflecting, they just tell themselves they know something the normies don't and that makes them special.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's worse than an echo chamber that they have. It's isolated improv. They aren't just agreeing, they're "yes and"ing. Collective world building without critical thought, disagreement, or awareness that it isn't how reality works.

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[–] snooggums@piefed.world 19 points 1 day ago

They also say things that don't make any sense if someone understands how a calendar works.

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[–] bstix@feddit.dk 22 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Charlie Kirk didn't kill himself.

But almost.

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 5 points 16 hours ago

Stochastic suicide? πŸ˜—

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

He just made a very pointy argument against guns.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I thought Charlie Kirk was Hamas

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago

From haram to Harambe.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk so MAGA had NO CHOICE but to Bomb and Iranian School in Response!

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (21 children)

This was pushed hard when it happened but I've never seen anything actually pointing to him being MAGA. He was raised in a right wing household but also dated someone trans and killed a right wing spokesman.

His social media got nuked right away so not much on that side. It was probably a mixed bag which is maybe more dangerous to have in the news in terms of inciting copycats. Easier if both sides blame it on the other, wouldn't want anyone to see himself in him.

That being said, I don't think his allegiance matters as much as the fact that Charlie deserved it. If you are punching Nazis, you are a good guy in my book.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

He was part of a group that thought maga was too soft. Any left in there was a buffer overrun.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 22 hours ago

If you mean the groypers, was that ever proven? It was an early accusation but I don't remember seeing proof, other than groypers hate Kirk.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think that ended aligning with the facts. In all respects he would be "swing voter" in the midwest ; he was largely apolitical and killed kirk because kirk spread hate about people he cared about.

Which is 100% true of charlie kirk no matter who you are. Kirk was anti women, anti trans, deeply racist, and deeply annoying. There is nobody who doesn't have one of his hated groups in their family and who doesn't have some reason to be annoyed by him.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

MAGA just doesn't think like that. They think putting women in their proper place isn't anti women its pro women because if they have traditional values imposed upon them then they will have a more happy fulfilled life. For those with minority associates or family members that they don't silently hate they rationalize that they are among the "good ones" Ask them if they hate black people and wait for them to tell you that they don't they hate n words which are somehow different than black people. Their compartmentalization is perfect. They see no tension with believing black people in general are bad but the ones THEY know to be good are good.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The theory is Israel killed charlie kirk because he was pushing back against israel

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I much prefer the real story about somebody killng charlie kirk because he was an annoying rich guy.

[–] scala@lemmy.ml 3 points 16 hours ago

I like the story that he wasn't far-right-enough

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 9 points 20 hours ago

It can be both.

Intelligence agencies love to gently nudge and provide support to someone who might do their dirty work for them.

That said it's way more likely they have kompramat on Trump and also that he is senile and thinks he is back in the 80s during the hostage crisis.

[–] realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip 56 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I'm trying to wrap my head around that statement but I can't come with any explanation why that should be the case.

[–] homes@piefed.world 32 points 1 day ago

Because it’s absurd nonsense

[–] Poxlox@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Candice Owens has suggested that various powers that be played a role in Kirk's assassination, particularly for speaking out against Israel.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (22 children)

Candace thinks Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

Because Kirk had reportedly refused to keep taking money from a prominent Israeli donor, and didn't want to keep being so pro-Zionist.

Frankly, I don't actually think that's totally impossible, though its far from conclusively proven.

However, if you know anything about guns or ballistics... the scenario that has thus far been presented by the FBI as to the kind of weapon that shot Kirk and the angle and distance he was shot from...

Its completely impossible, and does not align with the evidence on the scene.

If Kirk had been shot from basically the front, by a 30.06, in the neck, it would have blown half of his neck off, there would have been a massive back blast of viscera behind him.

What the actual wounds from the autopsy point toward is that roughly a 5.56 round from Kirk's above and right, entered his neck on the right side, traversed around and through various parts of his neck, untill it ended up severing the corotid artery on his right side and lodging itself into his left collar bone.

That bullet trajectory actually matches the specific injuries from the autopsy, and the video evidence.

A 30.06 from roughly 150 yards away... would have zero chance of embedding itself into a collar bone.

It would detonate it, shatter it, blow it apart.

A 30.06 from 500 yards away will shatter the femur of a moose... there's an order of magnitude more kinetic energy in a 30.06 than a 5.56 round.

You can run all the math on the physics of this yourself if you doubt it. I've already done it, search through my comment history if you want to see it.

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[–] jali67@lemmy.zip 7 points 21 hours ago

The worst part of it is people genuinely eat this shit up

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