It's almost like the ousted CEO of Stellantis was onto something with his "Dare Forward" plan. But apparently having long-term vision is punished by the market, so now they're bringing back gas guzzling V8s and fucking small-car diesel engine options (despite them being banned in more and more inner cities in Europe).
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I’m thinking of Mary Barra at GM who pushed for the Bolt, then canceled it, then brought it back, then decided only the larger model and that it’s a limited run.
I wouldn't buy their bullshit cars anyway. As an American who has been inside many, I can say that most American cars and trucks suck. Their reliability and build quality have driven me to only purchase vehicles from former WWII Axis powers nations.
Globally, the Chinese automakers are taking a huge chunk of market share.
They're effectively banned in the US, which is why you can't buy a decent car for $7000
self-driving cars
Ew, fuck off. I don't trust those things being on the road near me, not with how much worse they are than human drivers right now.
As someone who works in the bay area California. The Waymos are unfortunately better than most human drivers. It is noticeable....
Depends on whose. The Waymo ones do remarkably well. Other makers aren't nearly as good.
I don't care. Any self driving car is resigning my autonomy to a corporation. That is not fucking happening. for the love of god just invest in busses already
Isn't waymo just using remote workers to drive the cars?
Not exactly; they've got a remote worker facility where they've got about 1 person per 100 cars, who maps out what to do in situations where the software can't handle it, but doesn't do a full-on remote-drive. This enables them to gracefully handle the long tail of situations the software can't do yet, so long as not every car hits it at once (as with, say, a power outage causing all traffic lights to fail in San Francisco, or flash flooding causing issues all over Phoenix)
I’d prefer that to them just letting an AI do it
I'd rather pay a taxi driver.
For a lot of people, the main risk with a taxi is being attacked by the driver.
They said taxi, not uber.
Well, yeah…
Yeah, but the whole point of a car is autonomy and independence. The person's, not the car's. If you're looking for someone, or something, to transport you places, buses and trains are much cheaper and safer.
Self-driving cars can give an amazing level of autonomy and independence to people like never before. Think about elderly and disabled people who normally would have to rely on others to get around having the ability to do so on their own terms.
Also think about freedom of time you would get back. Stuck in a traffic jam? Watch a movie, read a book, get some road head. Everyone suddenly has their own personal drivers.
Accidents would decrease too (Waymo has published a **peer reviewed ** paper showing that it’s almost 12x safer than people). No having to worry about drunk or tired drivers.
Most people don’t care about driving, they just want a way to get from point A to B, and self-driving enables all of that.
Everyone suddenly has their own personal drivers.
I don't want a driver. Even if I had enough money to pay a personal chauffeur, I wouldn't want one. I prefer to drive my own car.
But maybe I'm in the minority on that one. Maybe most people would prefer self-driving cars. That's fine, I guess, but I just hope someone keeps making regular cars, because I ain't interested in being driven around by a robot.
Ideally I'd be able to live in a city or town designed around people, not cars. So I wouldn't have to own a car, autonomous driving or otherwise, to get around.
The same US Automakers who ruled the world virtually unchallenged for 100 years and then had to steal from the taxpayers to stay alive because decades of shit management had squandered every ill-gotten gain and opportunity?
That US Automakers? Yeah a NYT article ain’t gonna get it.
That's fine, they can survive on the large domestic market thanks to protectionist tariffs, and Americans can enjoy their very own Trabant equivalents
To sell them to a nation of impoverished firmer middle class who can't afford them
Who needs cars if you have AI and mass surveillance.