Self-sabotage is only possible when the average person is capable of making reasonably conscious decisions. Which I'm not even sure is true for all European countries, let alone the united shitholes of america.
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I love when the reason Harris lost is boiled down to her being a woman. It totally doesn't absolve her of all the reasons she was a bad candidate!
I wonder if the US will ever have a presidential candidate that isn't a zionist.
Who tf thinks Kamala’s problem was her laugh and not everything else?
I actually thought this was a general reference to the inherent stupidity of racism.
I get your point, but still think this is more of a jab at super racist MAGA people.
Nah Kamala is a fucking shady asshole, thats why people didnt vote for her.
Well, I for one am glad that we avoided having shady people in the Oval Office...
Holy whataboutism. Nothing absolves here of the shitty things she has done. The lesser evil ideology is why Trump is the current US president.
If the goal was to keep Kamala out of the office, the goal was achieved. If the goal was to keep the shadiest asshole out, it failed in a manner that would be laughable if it wasn't so horrible. If the goal was to not vote for shady people, well, how did that solve the problem of shady people in power? That isn't whataboutism, it is merely pointing out facts.
There was one way to get Harris into office: she had to change her stance on genocide.
There was one way to keep Trump out of office, and it wasn't sitting on your hands.
See how you it switched to a personal attack about what one individual dies? That's form of misdirection.
"If Kamala had done this..." - not a personal attack.
"If you (which is a plural, by the way) had done this..." - clearly a personal attack.
But please, assume the you was singular. How are those two statements different?
I'm not a fan of false dichotomies, but FPTP devolves into a dichotomy. Pretending it doesn't, or that even inaction has no bearing on the outcome, is just wishful thinking. There were two choices to be had, and every American who had the option made a choice, whether through action or inaction. Sure, Kamala could have made a statement to not support genocide. Maybe she would even have won if she had done so. But at the end of the day, a choice was still made, by each and every American with the option to vote.
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There's another aspect to it. The message changes considerably depending on the audience.
For bigger context Kamala just endorsed Jasmine Crockett over James Talarico for a Texas senate race, so we're seeing a big racial push this week about how this whole choosing a white guy over a black woman is a you problem and nothing to do with policy or anything.
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The twitter-exiled, well-to-do turbolibs who comprise the mainstay of BlueSky's (non furry porn generating) user base.
They don't believe in anything other than identity politics, and being morally righteous, while accomplishing less than nothing.
People who thought it was important that Harris continuing support for Israel while they were conducting a genocide.
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I mean, it was probably the support for genocide, the absence of a primary, and not taking people's complaints and anxieties about the economy/affordability seriously that lost her the election more than dissatisfaction with her laugh.
Liberals won't learn that nobody gives a shit about her laugh. This is not why she lost.
Reasons people didn't vote for her, in descending order of significance, as measures by number of votes lost.
Being a woman Being black Working with Biden Punishing Biden / Dems Actual personality Actual policy
To paraphrase Richard Nixon "Computers may be ten times smarter than they were in the 60s, but the average voter is as drunk and stupid as ever"
Jesus, Nixon was an idiot. Computers don't get "smarter."
You failed to list her support for fascist Israel, her money from billionaires, and her attachment to Joe Biden's policies and their relation to the economy. Face it, she was a status quo liberal and we're past that IMO. The people were never going to vote for Joe 2.0. Joe fucked up big time too. He didn't help his case by dropping out at the last minute. I know a lot of folks that were pissed the DNC skipped primaries even given the time constraint.
I say all this and I still voted for her. I won't make the same mistake voting for these liberals again though. The meta has changed. Trump has changed everything.
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Who gives a fuck about her laugh? Talk about completely inability to self reflect, learn, and grow. Dems are truly a lost cause.
Maybe go hug on some Cheneys if you’re gonna get upset and cry about it.
How do people not realize that Kamala Harris was wildly unpopular back in the 2020 election. She never won a single primary despite running for president twice.
Ronald Reagan came third in the 1968 Republican primary, didn't run in 1972, and came second in 1976. If you were writing this in the late 1970s you'd be arguing that Ronald Reagan was wildly unpopular because he'd never won a single primary despite running for president twice. Whatever you think of his legacy (and I think he's responsible for a lot of the worst parts of the last half century) he was wildly popular as president.
Was Harris popular? Not especially. But, the issue wasn't her laugh. Aside from being non-white and non-male, she was also running as a pro-establishment candidate at a very anti-establishment time. Trump's absolute destruction of the establishment will go down as history as the point at which the US really started to self-destruct. It shows how good the status quo actually was for a lot of things Americans take for granted. But, the message that "everything is fine, I'm just going to continue with existing policies" was the absolute wrong one to use.
I agree. Harris was a Glass cliff candidate who's entire purpose was to sacrifice herself to further the party line. Fascism didn't win the 2024 election, neoliberalism lost, just like it is losing across Europe where it is dressed up as cis-het white males like Starmer and Macron. But because an afro-indian woman was the face of neoliberalism here instead of her cis-het running mate, liberals can blame racism and misogyny instead of looking at their fundamentally evil and unpopular beliefs.
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Guys, no matter whether your a shitlib or an Marxist or an anarchist or whathaveyou we're all left-"half" at least. You/the online left need to realize it really is that simple for everyone who isn't somewhere on the left half of the spectrum, and there are tons of closet/unconscious racists.
The other half of the entire spectrum votes and they get the results that they want even if there's an occasional fly in the ointment. They bully to get the most out of their engagement.
If you voted for Trump or nonvoted because of Kamala's laugh you're certifiably an insane person.
If you didn't vote on the candidate that was less right-wing than the further right-wing candidate, I sympathize, but that was a mistake. Enjoy your war.
So how do you explain Kamala Harris getting 6 million less votes than Biden and Clinton while Trump had the same number of votes in all e elections? The Democrats forced an unpopular candidate who ran on how great the economy was doing at a time when most of the voter base couldn't afford rent and groceries. Her missing voters weren't leftists, they were disenfranchised, apolitical, workers that thought no one was representing their interests and sat it out. You don't know how I voted, and even if you did, it doesn't take a genius to realize that I live in a state that she lost by over 10 points. The Democrats decided they would rather cater to non-existent "moderates" instead of helping people. You want to blame people for not voting how you wanted instead of blaming the Democrats for running a terrible campaign.
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If it were only that simple. Nonetheless, non-voters decided that “just let it happen” was preferable to voting at all.
Do you think telling those potential voters to fuck off increased or decreased how many people voted for Harris?
Who said “fuck off”? Be an adult and realize this was going to be the outcome. No better than the republicans wanting to burn the place down.
When Kamala embraced every policy that had killed Bidens campaign, while messaging exclusively to republicans. When she had a border cop talk at the DNC while Palestinians were kicked out.
The dems ignored the people who might vote dem for republicans who will never vote dem.
I’m not arguing Kamala wasn’t a crap choice. Do the math and admit people said that trump was an acceptable outcome by choosing not to vote. That’s how it works.
Thats not how elections work no. People aren't making careful strategic calculations, they simply don't vote for candidates they don't believe will help them.
Triangulation doesn't work. 99% Hitler loses to 100% Hitler because people who want Hitler vote Hitler and people who want not Hitler are unrepresented. Same reason Hillary lost.
What? I have no idea what mental math you’re making up. Nobody implied it was strategic.
The logic is simple. Vote for one or the other. Making the choice to not vote either passively because unenthusiastic candidate or with intent to make a point, is tacitly accepting that the potentially worse outcome is acceptable. Anyone thinking otherwise is willfully ignorant or lying to themselves.
Thats not how elections actually work in practice. If it was, triangulating yourself to be 1 inch closer to center than the opposition would win every election. Instead we see people just check out. If Trump started a war, raped children, and stole billions, it wouldn't meaningfully increase Gavin Newsom's turnout. Conversely if Trump had been less dogshit, Biden's numbers would have remained about the same.
Trump's problem isn't that he's a white man. His problem is he's a narcissitic conservative pedo monster.
I do not subscribe to any of the petty reasons why conservatives dislike Harris.
I worked for the DOJ under her. My reasons for disliking her are grounded in reason. I have never worked in a bigger shitshow department than when I worked for the DOJ under Harris.
Previously unseen levels of burying the lede here. Truly a generational run by those unwilling to hold those in power accountable for their lack of action.
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bro people didn't even know she was running. Definitely the lesser of two evils but just dumb as fuck campaign, makes the controlled opposition thing sound real
Dumbest acts of self sabotage so far.
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