The party of "patriotism" everyone. This is their guy... the same guy whose defense for trying to overthrow the government and install himself as dictator is "I never said I swore an oath to uphold the constitution"
Not just that, but the ones for whom the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution are the beginning, middle, and end of their entire personal identity. They have a section of the Constitution tatooed on their fucking bodies, and they still support a man who would just as soon use the damned thing as toilet paper.
If Trump can argue the technicality that he never specifically said "support", we can argue ths technicality that the 2nd doesn't specifically say "guns".
It says the right to "bear arms." So if I want to graft a pair of cybernetically enhanced black bear arms to my body, I should have the right to do so! (As part of a well organized Bear Arm Militia, of course.)
Anyone who makes one thing^TM^ their entire raison d'etre is always a little... let's go with off for politeness. But the 2^nd^ Amendment ones are just walking red flags.
Can penis size be negative?
Innie?
Yeah but the guys who have that problem tend to be way less insecure than this guy
The Second Amendment is so awkwardly worded. You can tell it was initially drafted, then the middle part of the sentence (third line on that guy's back) added in later.
The us right wing is entirely the "there must be outgroups to bind and in groups to protect" mindset. Everything else is after the fact justification.
The presidential oath of office that Trump was required to recite during the swearing in ceremony:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
It dOeSn'T sAy "sUpPoRt"!!1! ChEcKmAtE lIbS!!
(I feel dirty now)
That's literally the legal defence they are using.
The “I’m not touching you” defense.
See also the, "We'rE NoT A DeMoCrAcY" set.
The 2nd amendment says nothing about guns/firearms. It was written as arms. It specifically talks about a militia and being able to keep things. It also says that we have the right to obtain the arms of bears (bear arms). There is literally no precedent to allow anyone have a gun.
It’s pretty explicit in what they wanted.
/s
This is why trying to argue based on literal words, and not intent, is dumb.
Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution defines the powers of Congress, including:
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
According to the words of the Constitution, Congress can't appropriate any money to the Air Force.
But didn't you see he had his fingers crossed? That means he doesn't have to do it!
They're trying to play semantic games and claim that supporting is not the same thing is preserving, protecting, and defending. It's a laughably bad argument and hopefully it gets struck down pretty much immediately.
"Preserve, protect, and defend, but not support. Checkmate liberals!!!"
What a piece of shit. How can anyone support this trash?
Because they too are pieces of shit.
Or dumb. Or not paying attention. Or some combination of the above.
they're paying attention to propaganda
Imagine being ~~brainwashed~~ bombarded on a daily basis with messages of how leftist will take over your country and how Trump will save them
I am. Still see through it
"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - H. L. Mencken
wait, so does that mean he was never actually president?
I guess his supreme court nomination are void then. Nice.
Worse than that, he wants the job again, and he's on his way to being the Republican nominee.
He's going to win and he's going to finish the job of dismantling the United States of America. He's quite open about it.
Apparently the oath that military folks take actually has the word "support" in it, but the one the president takes says "preserve, protect and defend."
Donald Trump... the sovereign citizen of world leaders.
This man is a tyrant.
No, he is bought by foreign influence and has discovered a way to monetize dismantling the United States
Can be both.
When are we going to collectively decide to excise the cancer that is Christian Conservatism in the U.S.?
All of these morons have happened before and all of these morons will happen again.
Hopefully soon. Republicans have been losing big because of abortion, and they're incapable of controlling the narrative because the lunatics are running the asylum.
Generational change was happening slowly, and then the Republican conspiracy theories with COVID accelerated it as elderly red voters died who could otherwise lived. Abortion being overturned has lit a fire in young people to actually get to the polls too. Going all in on Trump has also irreparably tainted the party for upper middle class who'd otherwise vote for him.
I don't know if the history books will say it was 2020, 2022, 2024, or 2028, but I'm very hopeful that sometime this decade will be when American conservativism is rendered unviable. We just need one more big push.
His supporters should be really mad about this. Generally they are the ones that invoke the Constitution anytime their lifestyle is inconvenienced.
Yeah but everything they do and say is in bad faith.
When “Donald Trump says….”
What follows is absolute bullshit.
And Donald Trump said ….
Nothing, you idiots, Donald Trump’s dead, he’s locked in my basement.
His personality disorders renders him incapable of supporting the Constitution.
Trump feels he is more important than it.
He probably had his fingers crossed and his ears stuffed with gold cheese puffs
Ever think about how if Bill Clinton had called the mother of a recently KIA marine without knowing his name we would still be hearing about it?
I haven't heard about that since the month it happened.
I can't wait for the mental gymnastics MAGA people will do when they get asked about this.
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