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[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

All the subjugating other peoples had nothing to do with the high standard of living. Korea, vietnam, and so forth to all of latin america. None of that helped working people, imperialist wars never help working people’s situation. Unions, and good leaders got those gains. They put 90% taxes on the rich at obscene levels to discourage the rich taking more than their share, etc.

And that is what is missing now, organization, we need unions, but not just around where we work, we need to be organized otherwise, I think innumerable groups federated together on general forums, to cooperate on what they agree on, like not getting fucked by the super rich without consent. From that forum, where we can organize around issues, cooperate on what we agree on, both privately and publicly, we could find and groom real leaders to take government from these parasites that now control it. We are stronger than they are, we just need to unite.

I FUCKING HATE NOAM CHOMSKY I FUCKING HATE BERNIE SANDERS I FUCKING HATE NOAM CHOMSKY I FUCKING HATE BERNIE SANDERS I FUCKING HATE NOAM CHOMSKY I FUCKING HATE BERNIE SANDERS I FUCKING HATE NOAM CHOMSKY I FUCKING HATE BERNIE SANDERS I FUCKING HATE NOAM CHOMSKY I FUCKING HATE BERNIE SANDERS

this class-collaborationist third-positionism will be the death of us. that and the liberal imperialists who count as the "labor movement" in the west.

i was at a parade once where the FRSO guy said imperialism "doesn't benefit the american people". this is why you don't do that

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 24 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm starting to think these people constantly talking about revolution might have some kind of political goal in mind... thonk

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 7 hours ago

how dare they have plans for when voting isn't enough

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 19 points 9 hours ago

We DO have an agenda grabber-left 🪥grabber-right

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 49 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is the first time we've had a president that wasn't at least trying to do the right thing

W (from his perspective at the time) justified our invasion of Iraq with both liberating the people and reducing our reliance on Israel and Saudi Arabia

Liberals can't forgive Trump for removing the pretense, because that was the only thing sustaining their delusion that America is good.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago

Real “attacking the person who your spouse cheated on you with” energy

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 19 points 9 hours ago

What no class consciousness does to a mf

[–] BabyTurtles@hexbear.net 38 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Tankies: hold no power while bearing the burden of being right about everything

Liberals: is this the tankie agenda?

[–] jack@hexbear.net 7 points 5 hours ago

Tankies: hold no power

xi-reactionary-spotted

[–] gramxi@hexbear.net 29 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

one of the annoying aspects of reading redditor comments is that they remind me of my politics as a teenager in the 2000s, and had I come out from school with a career in typing on a keyboard instead of doing physical labor, I also would have convinced myself that I had reached the apex of political philosophy requiring no further development

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I have a keyboard-touching job and escaped this. IDK how 🤔

[–] fox@hexbear.net 25 points 11 hours ago

I had a manual labor job in school and that radicalized me more than a thousand books ever could. Later I had mandatory ethics classes for my degree and that helped to put names on the thoughts I was having, and then the CTH sub put me on the path to citations-needed and graeber which really put the nail in the coffin of my liberalism and has made me ironclad against the unending tide of liberalism that irradiates my career path

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 30 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Animal Farm

Animal Farm is a work of fiction, God damn it. You can tell because it is located in the same section of the library as Moby Dick and The Hobbit.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 21 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Moby Dick is actually a whaling manual hidden within an adventure story. There's a bunch of how-to stuff that was used by whalers as a reference. It's part of why it was written. It's also why it's incredibly tedious to read for modern audiences. We don't want to read 20 pages of whale biology describing the location of each of their organs or 50 pages of how to process the blubber into oil.

Animal Farm doesn't even teach you how to farm, making it completely fictional. Moby Dick has sections longer than all of Animal Farm and 1984 combined talking about random whale shit like describing actual whale shit and the best knots to use while running rope through it.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 2 points 55 minutes ago

We don't want to read 20 pages of whale biology describing the location of each of their organs or 50 pages of how to process the blubber into oil.

I-was-saying

[–] Maturin@hexbear.net 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don’t forget the multi-page philosophical defense of the “whale is a fish” school of thought.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 1 points 39 minutes ago

You don't need multiple pages for that you just need cladistics. Whales are tetrapods, and tetrapods are lobe finned fishes.

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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 33 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (7 children)

Tankies stop at the system is fucked. It can’t be improved according to them, tear it down and build a new thing. Obviously that won’t happen and if we tried it would animal farm into something worse right off. And just isn’t true, the system here worked relatively well after the second world war. Never perfect, but with controls on the system and governed by mostly reason, we did make the most prosperous working class the world has every seen by a large margin. Now gone, chiseled away by the CPI having been understated for half a century averaging 2-3 percent a year just by 2008 under the new measures, while it was 5-8 percent under the old.

That was not a good faith change, it was done to steal from working people at every level and stage, and give to investors, and no one questions it even still, as the ivy league suits tell us our buying power has never been higher, when that clearly isn’t true.

the system here worked relatively well after the second world war. Never perfect, but

You mean the people who kept threatening people with nukes? The people who proliferated atomic weapons giga? The ones who did 56 military interventions (old figure btw, doesn't include Venezuela, for example) in South America post WW2? The one that proliferated military bases all across the world? The Bay of Pigs people? The ones that invaded Vietnam because they were bored? The people who made North Korea the most bombed place ever? Coup in Guatemala so that bananas were cheap? The people who would rather destroy civilization than coexist with the USSR? You're saying that system worked relatively well? I'm saying that they were barbaric up to and through current events.

I could have a prosperous working class too if I decided that my money was the world reserve currency because everyone else died in WW2 and proceed to loot other countries. But the prosperity that was enjoyed by others would, and was, only because there was a big strong union fighting and bleeding for the advocacy of the working class.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

“The system worked well after the second world war”

Bold pro-segregation stance

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 7 hours ago

if there was anything positive that came from slavery you can't say it was only bad!

echo chambers are bad and we need to prevent them on lemmy.world

Weird how both of those are from the same high level person in lemmy world leadership 🤔

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been thinking since a while ago that we should make well sourced posts exposing the messed up stuff the US and Europe have done in bite-size formats, with further readings and stuff, and post them in places we know some liberals and peoples disillusioned with politics are likely to see them.

This sort of ridiculously ignorant takes unironically coming from them vindicates the idea I think.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't Dessalines have some sections on that in the Socialism FAQ?

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

They do, but the libs never read it when linked.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 8 points 10 hours ago

You can try just copy/paste the relevant part, and if you can't then I think there's no reason to think what you're proposing now would work.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 11 hours ago

It can’t be improved according to them, tear it down and build a new thing. Obviously that won’t happen and if we tried it would animal farm into something worse right off.

"Nothing can ever get better so it's best to not even try"

[–] D61@hexbear.net 28 points 13 hours ago

the system here worked relatively well after the second world war

huh... I wonder why that is? parenti

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is like when Biden said "Trump was the first racist President".

Yeah, I'm sure in his heart Hayes was really just trying to do the right thing, and Nixon and Reagan and the rest of them. Look, if you're racist, then doing incredible violence to people of color is just trying to do the right thing. The real problem with Trump is that he's not a sincere and moralizing racist, he's just a flippant racist.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There were plenty who had slaves

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 19 points 12 hours ago

Yeah but you see, if they believed in racial superiority and manifest destiny, then actually they were still trying to do the right thing by enacting brutal white supremacist policies! /s

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