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[–] LordFireCrotch@lemmy.today 2 points 11 minutes ago

Holy ham fist Batman

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 34 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well, no. In Iron Man (2008), Iron Man decides that Stark Industries will no longer be selling weapons to the government, and will instead be investing all of its money in clean energy. Then he solves all the wars in the middle east and kills a CEO.

I'm not joshing you, folks, that's literally the plot of the movie. I rewatched it recently, that's exactly what happens.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

And we know that this is fiction because fiduciary duty means he'd immediately get fired and sued for turning around the company

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 2 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

Fiduciary Duty is a lie created in the 80s to make corporate raiders more appealing.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 0 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

Look up Dodge v Ford. This case set the precedent for what is now known as fiduciary duty.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 4 minutes ago

They discuss it in the wiki article:

Dodge is often misread or mistaught as setting a legal rule of shareholder wealth maximization. This was not and is not the law. Shareholder wealth maximization is a standard of conduct for officers and directors, not a legal mandate. The business judgment rule [which was also upheld in this decision] protects many decisions that deviate from this standard. This is one reading of Dodge. If this is all the case is about, however, it isn't that interesting.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 9 points 3 hours ago

Actually, Tony, Pepper, and Obadiah together owned more than half of the company's stock. Obadiah would have needed virtually ALL of the other shareholders to agree to such a lawsuit, and he decided to use violence instead of bothering with the headache that would have been. After he died, anyone trying to do the same would have needed to get Ezekiel Stane on board, while Tony and Pepper were consolidating their control over shares and offering a lot of money for anyone who wanted to cash out of SIA while it was still worth something. So yeah, Tony stopped that from happening by being good at business, it wasn't just plot armour.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The 3 Iron Man's, 1 spider-man's, and 1 avenger's villain are still direct results of Toni Stark either being a mad scientist or an oligarch.

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 10 points 3 hours ago

Most of that isn't related at all to his superheroics.

Stane and Killian became problems for the world long before Tony became a superhero. Hammer was inspired by Stark's superheroics, but Tony's whole goal for that entire situation was to keep the Iron Man technology out of the hands of people like Hammer. With Toomes, it the federal government stepped in to take over the job and the city didn't properly compensate him. He should have had a better cancellation clause in his contract with the city, Tony isn't responsible for that contract. And Mysterio was exactly what Tony believed him to be. Seems like most of Mysterio's goons were people mad they weren't allowed to design weapons anymore. Quitting evil makes assholes angry, that's not news.

The only supervillain I attribute to Tony's actions as Iron Man is Ultron, and Ultron definitely isn't a manifestation of Capitalism and the current world order. This comic is arguing that superheroes enforce the status quo, but I don't believe Iron Man has acted to enforce the status quo through his superheroics. Your argument that he created those supervillains doesn't convince Me either.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

Damn, I thought this artist was getting better with pacing. Guess not.

Only needed panels are 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 and I feel like panel 2 could easily be merged with another one.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago

23314
Hancock is literally a bum

(sorry for posting Will🤢Smith)

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

What would be an honest system look like? any real world examples?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

We had 60,000 years of communism here in Australia

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I am not very familiar with Australian history.

Did the native Australians write their history or only have stories that is passed from one generation to the next?

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Australian oral histories are the most accurate and consistent in the world. While the Library of Alexandria was burning down, Aboriginal Australians were preserving knowledge from tens of thousands of years ago. If you want to know what life was like 10,000 years ago, all you have to do is go talk to an Aboriginal elder.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Closest would probably be something like Rojava or Chiapas. Sadly the capitalists control the world and until enough people turn on them and their system we won’t see much else.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Both examples represent only a state or autonomous region within a country.

I understand capitalism is the dominant these days but I was ask more about the entire history of humanity.

Was there a whole country [ not a city or state ] at any point in written history that prospered on a more fair system?

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

What shakes me to my core is that any attempt to establish a fair system is immediately bombarded by countless external and internal malicious actors looking to either exploit any loophole they can find for their own benefit or sabotage the system to prevent it from gaining any traction because it threatens their power.

I don't think capitalism or any of the similarly exploitative systems that came before it are superior solutions to proposed fairer alternatives, but the wealth disparity they have created and the perverse incentive structure they push on society leave us ill equipped to transition away from them. Right now, our economies are all so interconnected and interdependent that it's impossible to exist outside of the influence of capitalism or it's awful predecessors.

[–] sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

I agree with all what you said.

The one thing we might disagree on is that you believe a fairer system is possible whereas I look at all countries in all of the known history and conclude that its not possible to have a fair system where everyone is truly equal.

I could be wrong of course. I am not a historian and surely there is a lot for me to learn and hence my question about any historic evidence of a successful fair system.

I come from Egypt and we went through communism period. The president back then decided to take big chunk of land from the ultra rich and divide it among the farmers. Factories were nationalized, big chains and businesses were taken away.

Result:

  1. When a land lord owned vast amount of land, he had enough money to buy most advanced equipments and most talented and experienced engineers in agriculture but when the land got divided among many poor farmers, they couldn't afford any of that and productivity went down fast and the effect is lasting until now.

  2. Nationalized factories and businesses were given to people who - at best - didn't worry too much if they'd succeed or not and at worse wanted to make as much cash as possible. Add to that people feared of succeeding too much least their possessions get confiscated.

Egypt used to produce TVs, Radios, cassettes, Cars, .and many others and now it produces pretty much nothing.

Even China didn't starts to succeed until it gave in a little to Capitalism (not that Communist China was any fairer anyway)

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Superheroes can't permanently solve stuff because then they'd have nothing left to fight and the comic would end.

In the real world the Joker would have 'accidentally' died in custody a long time ago, Mr. Fantastic would have us all driving cheap electric cars powered by arc reactors made by Tony Stark, and we'd be livimg a life of gay space communism.

[–] Solumbran@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago

I mean you're basically describing star trek. It's not like you can't write stories like that.

[–] starik@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

This is a tell-don’t-show type of comic