Also, has not enough carriages, so journey will probably be cramped...
Come on, if you were in Minneapolis, you'd be happy about that.
Ok, ok, I'll let myself out.
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The virgin DB ICE vs the gigachad ÖBB Railjet.
Return voyage working out much better, so l am happy again! :-)
I can’t wait until ICE goes to Nuremberg
Nice joke, love it.
For the non German people: ICE here is intercity express. Our cops are somewhat more tolerable than yours.
Also German Rail is always late.
And for the people that don't get the Nuremberg part: that's where the Nazi trials were held.
It certainly should.
But I still value the work ethics of the ICE personal very much.
It's not their fault that their employer isn't able to coordinate procedures efficiently...
Hey, you try to be effective while taking the worst possible decision every time! Those poor managers! 😭
As a foreigner, ICE was so great a decade ago when I went to Germany regularly. What happened to destroy this beacon of fine travel?
What happened [...]?
The long term effects of privatization and decades of car centric politics.
That sucks. I saw the DB as a model of envy.
The DB was great (albeit a little bureaucratic), while it still was the Bundesbahn, a public institution, run by public servants like every other government office. But when they became the DB AG, a shares based for profit company (still held by 100% by the government), they became a shitshow, because now their mission of providing reliable public transportation changed to making maximum profit and paying their C-suite (typically former politicians or their buddies) ever increasing bonuses for doing fuck all or even less than that.
That's the way many German public institutions went thanks to rampant privatisation caused by all mainstream parties adopting the neoliberal agenda. They are now a shadow of their former self, delivering sub par service for outrageous prices while making a few individuals very rich.
Sad, but unsurprising, that right-wing grift is universal.
Sadly a thing of the past...
The CDU never invested in the necessary maintenance, so from 2022 to 2025, SPD, Grüne and FDP had to push through funding all the necessary repairs and modernizations at once, crippling the whole network for the next 10-20 years. Part of it is beeing modernized while the rest now has a higher demand than what its capable of. Since the network is already very tightly packed, one small incident can cause a domino effect of trains beeing late throughout Germany.
Honestly, all countries should handover train management to Japan.
Indeed! For example, the Tōkaidō high speed line between Tokyo and Osaka runs almost 400 trains every day with an average delay of about 12 seconds 🤯
Bear in mind that this is just the high speed service (Shinkansen). There is also a parallel line for local trains.
Or the Swiss.
I don't trust their 'neutrality'
If I don't survive, tell my wife "Hello".
Only 30 minutes? That's cute.
I am confident that there is still growth potential along the remaining route!
Let me tell you about me once trying to get from Mainz to Nürnberg some time...
In Italy, our train system is notorious for being always late... They actually celebrate when they are on time, no joke
Celebrating sounds very Italian... We Germans just share some sarcastic comments with our fellow travellers. :-)
fuck ice.
worst train experience of my life.
Let me tell you about the wonders of DSB. You expect a train and lo and behold, it's a "train bus"!
If I have to take the "train" anywhere the next 4 months I need to take one of those infamous "train busses"
But hey, at least the trains are working and on time when there's not construction work? Think again! That is the time for signaling errors, brakes that fall off the trains, or leaves on the track! And guess what that means? More train busses!!
at least the toilets were working on dsb. last time i was on an ice every toilet except one was out of order. on a full night train from münchen to hamburg.
There was a bus substitute on one of my routes some time ago.
Turned out it was faster than the train because it took the Autobahn.
First time in my life arriving 20 mins early at that destination...
Was it a proper travel bus with seatbelts and everything? I've once been in a bus meant for inside cities that went on the Autobahn, that was pretty scary
Yes, seatbelts and comfortable seats.
Definitely an improvement to the Regionalexpress!
meanwhile, die Züge in Polen:
Dear DB. That's not a challenge, don't you dare to accept it!
Oh my god +161m what the fuck
So we are still not worst?
I guess that's... uplifting?
The other day I was supposed to take an ICE, which was canceled, and all the next ones as well for that day. So they had replacement buses. 4 per train... which means that when i arrived at 11.30 for my "train-bus" replacement, the 4 buses that left were from the 9.30 slot. By the time the buses for the 10.30 slot arrived, there were people from the 12.30 train there. You can imagine I gave up and did not go.
You can imagine I gave up and did not go.
Not an option for me, mandatory appointment.
But something similar happened for as with your buses, but fortunately in a good way:
The preceding ICE was even more delayed, so I was able to catch that one instead. :-)
German qfality The downfall of germany should be studied. Ice are cool, sad it's shit like anything in that country anymore
Ugh, been there. Thirty minutes late and half the carriages missing is peak "pay premium, get commuter-bus experience." Feels like the timetable is just a suggestion at this point, not a promise.
Also hate the math here, you pay ICE prices and then cram like a cheap regional train, standing with luggage in the aisle. Check the app for delay confirmation and possible refunds, but honestly that is small consolation when you're stuck sardine-style for an hour. Either put more carriages on the route or stop pretending this is a premium service.