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Starbucks is shit, it has always been shit, it will always forever be shit.

There's a reason it failed in Australia. There's a reason it only exists still in Australia and that's only to cater to tourists who don't like coffee but like coffee-flayoured milk bevetages - you'll never find Australians in there except maybe if working and forced to make shit drinks. Literally everywhere else is better, including fast food places.

I'll give it some credit as a "third place" but literally every other coffee shop is too and they serve actual coffee.

I can tell you exactly why people aren't going to Starbucks anymore: the quality has declined from lack of training, it's now overpriced coffee for what it is, and their shops aren't even good "3rd places" anymore - their furniture isn't comfortable and the space design implies "give us money, then gtfo". Starbucks as just turned into an overpriced fast-food coffee company

I used to frequently go to a Starbucks in the town I went to uni in; To the point where the baristas knew me by name. I went a lot because it was that 3rd place I could go and study / get work done, with readily available snacks and beverages. However, they ended up closing that shop, even though it was one of the highest rated shops in either the town/province because: they couldn't put a drive-through in at that location 🤦

It's ironic how at that old location, they used to write / draw stuff on the cups for their loyal customers because there was an actual friendship between the employees and the regular customers. Now they write generic stuff on the cups as "corporate mandated fun"

Good. Who wants to drink burnt coffee from a megacorp when I can drink coffee that's actually good from a local business?

Americans are pretty fucking disgusted that the CEO of Starbucks takes a private jet to work in Seattle from his home in California. Eat the rich.

Starbucks has moderately tasty food, and disgustingly bad coffee. If they put enough sugar into it, it's fine... But going elsewhere yields better results.

I don't like coffee that tastes burned.

Yeah. Cause Starbucks over roasts their coffee to ensure consistency across the brand. It tastes like shit. Gas station coffee is better. You go to Starbucks for the milk shakes made in a coffee shop. You get coffee somewhere else.

Why do people even go to starbucks? I've been there once. The coffee is sugarry slop, the atmosphere is the same fastfood atmosphere as anywhere.

If I want to go out and have a coffee on my day off, I 'd much rather go to some local coffeshop somewhere and experience their unique atmosphere, sight, sounds, smells, tastes and everything they have to offer. It's probably cheaper as well, except that I'm usually inclined to buy a bite as well and mayne some more.

Anti-union strike-breakers are losing business? Say it ain't so.

Starbucks feels like the Blockbuster of the quick-stimulation market. Once there were no alternatives, now there are loads, often cheaper and better. Without constant customer flow, it’s suddenly just vast amounts of premium real estate that need paying for. And unlike smaller competitors, it doesn’t have much room to pivot. Watching how that unwinds will be interesting.

Starbucks coffee is shit.

Wait, you're telling me that when the economy basically collapses, people can't afford their regular coffee flavored morning milkshake?

Starbucks was an amusing rise and fall.

• Put one on every street-corner, possibly across the street from each other.
• Run all the other coffee shops out of business
• Let your stores fail because they can't sustain themselves
• Competitors notice this, and move in with drive-through-only stores

Of course the competitors are small chains and the original shops were indie, but that's just the free hand of the market fisting some folks without lube

Starbucks doesn't even have coffee so this is stating the obvious. They only serve brown water with milk and syrups

I would rather get a coffee headache than get a Starbucks coffee.

They didn't revolutionize coffee culture, they just capitalized on it.

As someone from the PNW, I've ever understood why there were lines at Starbucks here. We have great local coffee stands on basically every block, and they're typically way better and much cheaper.

Starbucks is just not what it was. Wife gets them for a treat but we bought a kick ass ninja coffee maker and a grinder and have been doing it all at home. The savings allows us to buy the more expensive beans.

Plus I can now buy beans roasted in Canada and not support an American company.

Where I am, there's more artisan cafes than 'Bucks. However I find it cheaper to just have instant coffee from Indonesia.

I haven't even stepped foot in a Starbucks - ever - but then again, I'm not American either.

In my experience, coffee you make at home is practically always better than what you get from a coffee shop. Even if you're just using a basic drip machine and decent pre-ground beans.

I've only twice ever gotten actually good coffee from a shop. One was a pour-over from beans I watched the barista grind fresh, and the other they made with an Aeropress.

We're broke lol

Guess I'm the lone wolf here who likes Starbucks coffee. Of course, I like a lot of other coffee better. I make a mean cup of coffee myself. It's not fancy and many people who stick their nose up at "corporate" coffee would probably say a lot of mean things about my coffee, too, but it's good to me and I like it. You'll never please anybody.

One thing about Starbucks: you're generally going to get the same thing wherever you go. If you find something you like, it's consistent. Also, some of their coffee is good to make at home.

That said, my favourite coffee shop is a local cafe. It's not a chain, there's only one of them, and it's the same nice lady making the coffee every day. I think she and her wife own the place? It's a bit expensive, but I don't mind because it's good, and it's espresso. I've talked to the barista about it, like I can make good coffee at home, but I come for the espresso, the unique drinks, and the atmosphere. It's a nice place to break out a laptop and chill, and they play nice music.

I actually very rarely go to Starbucks. But when I do, I know exactly what I want, and what I'm going to get. I don't think they're better than anyone, and I'll always prefer independent cafes. But I don't hate Starbucks, either. And I am glad to hear Starbucks being taken down a peg. We don't need them on every corner.

I asked myself why I haven't been there in a long time a week ago and said screw it I'll go and get a large iced coffee.

Well I regret it, immediately remembered why I haven't, the price to value for what you get is just awful.

If I had a local coffee shop I'd go there instead but unfortunately I got none near me, what I could of done is gone to the McDonald's down the street and gotten a better drink for less, hell I could of bought 2-3 iced coffees there, not a hard choice.