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Guess I'm the lone wolf here who likes Starbucks coffee. Of course, I like a lot of other coffee better. I make a mean cup of coffee myself. It's not fancy and many people who stick their nose up at "corporate" coffee would probably say a lot of mean things about my coffee, too, but it's good to me and I like it. You'll never please anybody.
One thing about Starbucks: you're generally going to get the same thing wherever you go. If you find something you like, it's consistent. Also, some of their coffee is good to make at home.
That said, my favourite coffee shop is a local cafe. It's not a chain, there's only one of them, and it's the same nice lady making the coffee every day. I think she and her wife own the place? It's a bit expensive, but I don't mind because it's good, and it's espresso. I've talked to the barista about it, like I can make good coffee at home, but I come for the espresso, the unique drinks, and the atmosphere. It's a nice place to break out a laptop and chill, and they play nice music.
I actually very rarely go to Starbucks. But when I do, I know exactly what I want, and what I'm going to get. I don't think they're better than anyone, and I'll always prefer independent cafes. But I don't hate Starbucks, either. And I am glad to hear Starbucks being taken down a peg. We don't need them on every corner.
I favor independent coffee shops too, and I agree with everything you said. Starbucks is useful for when you’re on-the-go or traveling, for when you need a reliable 3rd space with seating, bathroom, and wifi.
Another thing I give Starbucks points for is high customization. I can do an online order as detailed as I want and know exactly what’s in it. Oh and the drive-thrus and early/late opening hours are convenient. Very helpful for shift workers.
I like it too. Honestly I only order espressos and it's consistent. I'll gladly support local coffee shops, but the espressos are always bitter.
This is very interesting to me, because the reason I don't like Starbucks is because their coffee is SO much more bitter. I obviously don't know what your local coffee shops are like for comparison though
Espresso is meant to be bitter, and not in the "coffee is meant to be bitter" sense. With coffee, you take it with cream and sugar, it mitigates most of that. Espresso though? If it's made right, it's always gonna be bitter. So you put some flavours in it to give it other tastes but it's still bitter. Does its job though, wakes your ass straight up. And that's why we like it.
Is it? I've had espressos where you taste the créme and it's very smooth. I never add cream or sugar.
That's the thing. Most of what's drank at these shops it's not black coffee. It's coffee mixes that we won't make at home.
Correct. Won't, or can't. I have some flavours, but not only do I not have an espresso machine, I don't have some of the more exotic stuff on hand. It's fine for a shop that will use a few containers of the stuff in a day, but for just me (and my wife), the container is likely to expire before we finish it. So we brew the basics at home, and treat ourselves when we can.