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[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting. There's also no penguins in the arctic. But there are penguins in Antarctica. I wonder if the was penguins in the north originally, but the bears ate them all. And the only reason the continue to exist in Antarctica is because there aren't bears to eat them.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Genus Pinguinus was wiped out by humans, not bears.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

It helps you orient yourself if you find yourself in one of these places.

[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 57 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Except it's nothing to do with that and comes from the Arctic being marked by Ursa Minor & Major in the Northern sky, and Antarctica being the opposite of that.

[–] autriyo@feddit.org 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So there's no sky bears in Antarctica then?

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

We have enough with the interdimensional bears. You cant take a shit in piece in here.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

Sure but it's also convenient that there are also no bears in Antarctica or as it shouldve been named Terra Australus but the Australian got that, really should've flipped the names when we had the chance.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 85 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Petition to make the names less confusing by renaming the top one to "Bear" and the bottom one to "Twink".

[–] ElBarto@piefed.social 17 points 2 days ago

"Top" and "Bottom".

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Are we still talking about poles?
~The answer is yes!~

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 days ago

I want you to know I understand the genius of this

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Soon we can call them both Antarctica

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Aww, I was annoyed but overall cheerful, then I read this and now I'm just sad.

I guess you have at least simplified my emotional spectrum, so ... Thanks?

[–] klay1@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

sorry! And... you're welcome i guess?

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

That the names translated accurately describes the presence or absence of bears is a coincidence.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 111 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's still mind blowing, even if it is a coincidence.

[–] debris_slide@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You’re going to name constellations after things that you know well, so the fact that there are a lot of bears relative to other megafauna in northern regions means that in a way the original idea still holds, just not quite as basic.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Some constellations, including the Great Bear, were named long before our languages even existed.

Etymology wise we might say it comes from ancient Greek, but it's also called Great Bear in languages that have no origin in Greek.

Wikipedia - Cosmic Hunt

I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe the Great Bear is actually named after a great bear.

Not all cultures though. In Brazil, the Big Dipper is also known as "large anus of the snake".

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 days ago

kinda, not really

arctic, from ancient greek ἀρκτικός did mean "of the bear" originally, probably as a reference to the constellation (cause i don’t think the ancient greeks ever went to the arctic to confirm if there were bears or not)

antarctica doesn’t mean "no bears", it means "the opposite of the arctic"

[–] scytale@piefed.zip 25 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What would the equivalent be for “penguins” and “no penguins”?

[–] Haaveilija@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago

Linux / Windows

[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pinkouinos / antipinkouinos ?

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[–] hector@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago

There used to be a penguin like animal in the north, the Auk. Hunted to extinction.

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (10 children)

Well, it* is about the only actual predator to the human species so we make a big deal out of it.

*polar bear specifically I mean

[–] Cypher@aussie.zone 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Salt water crocodiles absolutely will hunt humans.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh, that one is true, didn't think of them old lizards, they even study the behavioural patterns of animals on land iirc.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How come no places are called No Wolves or No Lions or No Tigers?

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (4 children)

we made doggos out of wolves :)

but lions and tigers... guess they were harder to spot among the foliage

[–] Nikelui@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Have you tried with catnip?

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

Idk.
They don't really prey on humans & we coexisted without much issues for humans (very much a lot of issues for them). Then that is not that hugely dissimilar with polar bears (seals are still better than humans).

Eating a baby in case of big dogs & cats every so many years doesn't really count I think, in nature it's usually disregarded even if a regular thing bcs of the size difference (and the mortality rate to adulthood). A bit along the lines that babies of all species are food & that doesn't give you much representative info.

With polar bears, even with villages in the migrating area (their ecosystem is shrinking rapidly), you just can't be outside, they will munch you.

Hikers can hike through woods with wolves, you can park your car next to lions, ... tigers would be borderline (and endangered), but it seems they fear us, they fear injury & our unpredictability generally (when forced to individuals can prey on humans, they were a few documented cases, but doesn't seem the default behaviour).

Polar bears don't back off if they need food, they can stalk you & (try to) break obstacles.
Maybe it's just that it harder to fight of a polar bear just of it's mass & power?

Also wiki/Polar_bear_jail.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago
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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's like when I see a place named "Westmoreland" I'm like "Ok, so someone thought, "there's more land west of where I was, and I'm not very creative".

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

if you dig deep enough that's what almost all place names are, and as stupid as it feels it's a great way to make fantasy place names feel not stupid.

There are a series of cities on the northeastern coast of sweden that all lie near the mouth of a long river, and those cities are quite literally named [Name of the river valley]-stream, while the rivers themselves are named [Name of the river valley]-river. It's so profoundly stupid and yet no one ever thinks about it at all.
Luleå, on Lule älv. Piteå, on Pite älv. Umeå, on Ume älv. Etc etc..

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Wait until you find out about Greenland and Iceland!

[–] ElBarto@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Vexingly, not pronounced as new+found+land. Apparently it's something like Newfin-lan, with a stress on the first syllable.

[–] ElBarto@piefed.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Interesting!

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

or New York

new york (2) final.docx

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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oh nice you talk to yourself when in public? Me toooo 😃😎

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

what would be latin based names for penguins an no penguins.

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