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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

It's always the patriarchal conquerors like the Ancient Romans or the Ancient Greeks that they idolize and never the people like, say, the Picts or the Celts or the Gaul that rebelled against the brutal Roman empire. It's never the Scottish or the Irish heroes who fought back against the British Empire that followed in Rome's footsteps. None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

Ironically, a lot of the stuff you could call "white culture" was burnt at the stake, banned, brutalized, and literally demonized by the Empires that chuds think are so civilized. A lot of pagan culture was lost to time, or warped by Roman 'scholars' for propaganda purposes. If they truly cared about their 'culture', then "Muh Christian trad wife' would be seen as killing the identity of pagan women, rather than an aspiration.

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[-] M68040@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

It's interesting how a lot of these people end up adhering to broadly similar "theme park" versions of history. Stuff like Rome apparently collapsing overnight (Possibly because of gay people) and so on

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

You do get some celt chuds, but most were ran out of Folk communities long ago and settled in country music. Also the Chud trad culture they do like that is celtic or germanic is always half-baked 19th century revivalist stuff.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Most of them couldn't name twelve countries in Europe.

[-] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

I knew a chud who thought Europe was a country!

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Smdh, you hate to see it folks, another burger brain.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

There has never been a matriarchal society

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

Nah, there has been. If you'd like me to cite something, I'm reading Graeber's Dawn of Everything rn and he specifically talks about matriarchal societies in indigenous North America

[-] M68040@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I was gonna say, "Never" seems like a bit of a tall bet in anthropological terms. There's been a lot of civilizations and complex societal structures have been around for millenia, so i'm sure that any idea the average person could think of has been tried somewhere at some time. Maybe not at significant scale and maybe not for long, granted.

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Did some research, I'll need to do some deeper digging but it so far looks like it's not a patriarchy, which is not the same as being a matriarchy

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 9 points 11 months ago

The book is super dense with info so I'll dig too next time I keep reading

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago

Thanks. It's definitely an interesting topic, and whatever the make up of autochthonous European society, the steppe peoples brought in far more severe patriarchy.

[-] somename@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago

Is this sarcasm or are you just unironically chud posting?

[-] GreenTeaRedFlag@hexbear.net 11 points 11 months ago

I'm stating the current view of anthropology and archeology as a whole instead of one book. Things have existed which are not patriarchy, matriarch is not one of them.

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[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

retvrn to minoa. long live the palace economy!

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