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[–] JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's fucking wild to me how so many people willingly signed over their privacy so blatantly.

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 18 hours ago

They've been conditioned to not care or even desire it. Smartphones had Siri and Google Assistant as a selling point, which led to ever more intrusive tech that was marketed as a convenience. Facebook took it a step further and had you label people in pictures uploaded to them and you sign away your privacy in their terms and conditions. Advanced marketing techniques were irresistible to social media companies and so consumer profiles of everyone they could get became a thing.

Jokes about seeing ads that smartphones can overhear made the intrusive spying all the more accepted as just a part of life. Android marks your calendar and reminds you of appointments made using your Gmail account when you never asked it to. Ring doorbell cameras quietly sell their video feeds to the highest bidder, often to law enforcement as a convenient means to circumvent the 4th amendment. And now the latest trend is to have your car do everything your phone already does but take it a step further by monitoring your driving habits so insurance companies can justify raising your premiums.

The average person isn't tech savvy enough to understand they're being sold as a product even after paying for their own surveillance gear. They just want modern conveniences without thinking the price they pay beyond the original sale.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Your phone is probably worse. Yes, even with GrapheneOS.

[–] rook@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago (6 children)

Please explain?! Is GrapheneOS a honeypot in your opinion?

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[–] Zoabrown@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The scariest part is when you just think about pancakes and then start seeing ads for flour and maple syrup 10 minutes later. They don't even need the wiretap anymore.

[–] AlfredoJohn@sh.itjust.works 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah because they know you like pancakes and can serve you ads to start that train of thought so when you are served the pancake ad you feel like it 'got you' instead of the real fact that you were manipulated into thinking about pancakes so the pancake ad has more possibility of getting engagement from you. This is why you should have ad block on everything you interact with.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 20 hours ago

yeah people don't realize just how insidious advertisement really is.

your phone isn't "reading your mind," advertisers have such a comprehensive model of you that they're able to predict your thoughts with an incredibly high degree of accuracy before you even have them. There's also obviously a bit of confirmation bias in play, you only remember the times they got it right as opposed to the times they guessed wrong.

[–] Splanda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

I suddenly feel a sharp craving for some ad-block software...

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

How many of you are responding to this post from your cell phone?

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Authoritarians learned that 1984-style totalitarian control doesn't work anymore; so they tried Brave New World's control through psychological pleasure, and it is more successful than ever imagined.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Really it’s a mixture of both. Brave New World to keep the masses sedated, 1984 for the people who start to question the system.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

When phones were still tied to a cable, people were freer.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

it IS a wonder. i'm actually pretty curious how they accomplished this.

like i know how they harvest our data to figure us out, but i'm a computer guy. the psychology of brainwashing that sophisticated must be crazy.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

My hypothesis is that it's a frog in a pot of water scenario. Western Union started the first charge account in 1914, so we've had a long time to get used to the water heating up. It probably did start with honest intentions to make things work a little smoother, but I remember the early days of digitizing records, and there was a LOT of loose data just there for the taking.

I remember that I used to work at RadioShack in the late '00s, and I had to escalate up to district because we discovered a treasure trove of old paper store credit applications that had been cached somewhere in the backrooms, and my manager wanted to just throw them in the normal garbage and not risk the cost of the extra shredding coming out of her bonus.

These things had SO MUCH INFO, handwritten out onto a paper form; name, birthday, SSN, mailing address, street address, then all that info of the spouse/cosigner that wanted to be on the account too. I could have made so much money on the black market, looking back.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Truly amazing how many breaches of privacy people are willing to put up with if the propaganda says that questioning the tracking means you're hiding something and deserve to be tracked.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Or to protect the children! Child abuse is the trojan horse, also age restrictions a trojan sheep they have several on offer, to surrender to Tech. Social scores by half baked ai deciding everything secretly, in a way no one can know and challenge. The entire west is trying to surrender their citizens to Tech giants last year for a cut of the info and personal exemptions for politicians and security services.

Past generations would tar and feather these assholes something is wrong.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This is the dawn of technofeudalism. First our data is sold to the CorpoLords, then our lives, then our souls.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 21 hours ago

It really is.

In the late roman empire the rulers fucked up so much, no one could pay their taxes, government wouldn't even accept it's own watered down currency for taxes but demanded gold or silver or services and goods in kind. It got so bad people were walking off of their jobs en masse after those jobs didn't provide for life anymore.

The empire responded by binding people to their jobs for life, and their kids. Many city people remained free but country folk were enslaved. The big latifundia factory farms turned their estates into castles and became lords. All while the barbarian invasions came sweeping through, and the people welcomed their government getting crushed.

One could see how that will play out again.

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[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago
[–] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This was so obviously a bad idea from day one, I was shocked at how widely adopted these were right away. In retrospect I shouldnt have been surprised but somehow I just always expect people to be smarter.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

With so many methods for global communications in the average persons hands it not a wonder at all. People are not even one iota security conscious until they get tagged and by then its too late

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The CIA openly admits to spying on people around the world and everyone's reaction is now 'Oh you'

Somehow (constant media propaganda most likely) they've convinced people that to do ANYTHING you have to get your hands dirty; that 'ANYTHING' however is rarely or only slightly in our benefit, it's of a bigger benefit to an elite few instead. Even if you ascribe to 'the ends justify the means', the ends aren't worth it and the means are just getting more and more horrific and we're assuming the imperial boomerang isn't on its way back.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

No no no, we're in chat buddy era so it's "Hey wiretap propose food for today"

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