I took one of my country's official languages in high school and I still speak it like shit ...
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Speak for yourself. You're probably a native English speaker and have it easy.
Language classes in school are horrible. You're going for an hour a day for 180 days, with significant gaps every few months, and moving at the rate of the slowest learners in the class.
500 hours of constant, immersive study would likely get you most of the way there, which is not the same as being immersed for 500 hours without study :)
I thought I was doing well with Duolingo once, then realized, 40 hours in, that I had almost no concept of formal/informal, and barely had any verb conjugation or grammar.
I used to agree with you, then I came to Europe where everyone can speak at least two languages. So they must be doing something right in schools here
It is still very good brain exercise to learn new languages. It's a way of keeping your brain muscle in Shape. Just like math exercises and reading books.
I mean, I took Spanish and use it, but I'm New Mexican and work with Cubans elsewhere.
I took one semester of Russian in uni and I still can read the Cyrillic alphabet
Same.
I can also order tea with milk on an airplane.
That's about it, though.
They wouldn't let me take foreign language classes because my English grades weren't good enough. It wasn't that I was even bad. I just didn't do homework.
4 years of Latin. I do not know Latin. I do know quite a bit of Roman history though
I took it upon myself to learn Spanish for 2 and a half years, and I can say I speak Spanish! Not perfectly. But I read novels and watch things in Spanish. My speaking isn't quite as good, by virtue of me listening way more than I speak. But hey I think I did pretty well.
I've had French and German for 13 years. I don't speak a word of French and can say very basic things in German, but not complete sentences.
Was hast du dann die 13 Jahre lang gemacht? Däumchen gedreht?
Nie Hausaufgaben gemacht. Wirklich, ich habe Deepl benutzt, um das ins Deutsche zu übersetzen.
I studied a book going over "chagatai tili" in highschool.
I remember absolutely 0 words or grammar.
I got out of the language requirement in college by taking computer science courses, which counted as "language" only because programming languages are called what they are. It is just the dumbest fucking shit. If they were called "paradigms" or "code instruction sets" or something like that (which would be just as or more accurate than "languages") it never would have occurred to anyone to let us computer nerds -- who are already not exactly well-rounded in general -- to get out of learning a real fucking language.
I studied French for six semesters. I kept failing.
I took German in school, then moved to Germany and gained (rudimentary) fluency, then moved back to the US and lost it after a couple decades of disuse.
"Mexican Americans....take Spanish in school...and get a B"