I am 100% convinced that the reason they're so obsessed with AI is that they're planning for societal collapse and trying to automate away all the skills and labor they're incapable of doing (which ie essentially everything). Their dream is to go down into a luxury bunker, let an automated security system kill any plebes that try to break in, and have a super intelligence take care of them.
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I can not wait for the wealthy to enter their tombs.
And they aren't even giant stone monstrosities so we dont have to deal with much tourism afterwards either.
When I was a kid I didn't think the chair trick worked on doors until I realized that you need to place the chair in a way that jams the handle from being able to rotate. It works only on doors (I think) that rotate both sides when you turn on.
It didn't change my life much to learn it other than give me some small satisfaction
It'll work on regular handles too if the height is right 🤔
I wonder how many billionaires will just get couped by their security forces once society has collapsed to the point where they wouldn't expect consequences. Their advantages right now come from society as well as the complexity of organizations and social networks. Transitioning to self-sustaining life in bunkers eliminates the power the billionaires hold over the security forces, like what happened with Roman and Ottoman emperors at various points as they grew more dependent on their security to the point the security ended up holding the keys. Especially if they go out of their way up hire security that will do anything they say.
I think the way to avoid being couped would be to make sure your security forces lived really really well before the collapse, and have everyone live as equals in the bunker. At least that way they'd have some loyalty to you. Problem is that requires sharing and we all know how much billionaires love to do that.
This is an open problem for advocates of the Dark Enlightenment theory (Wikipedia) like Peter Thiel and Curtis Yarvin.
One of the most commonly discussed solutions is to surgically implant explosive devices into the bodies of your lead security force.
Exactly. In dystopian fiction (Robocop: Prime Directives for example) corporations absolutely use the threat of removing all benefits and pensions to force their underlings to be compliant, as there is absolutely no social safety net.
Edit: In the Roman Empire the praetorian guard was responsible behind a fuckload of assassinations. If a Roman emperor didn't keep them happy they would remove him.
And for all the right wing shit about thr glory of the Roman Empire I need to mention thay around 60+% of Roman emperors died a violent death. It was an incredibly murderous society.
Yep. “We can protect this guy and all his money and fancy food… or … kill him and share it amongst ourselves…”

"This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.
What is here was dangerous and repulsive to us. This message is a warning about danger."
Wait until the ventilation system's ins and outs get discovered.
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Gallons of bleach followed by gallons of ammonia down them. That or a tire fire near the inlets.
A few loose shits first though.
Gorgeous!
tear gas + liquid ass would be a potent combo
New Zealanders when the usian rich destroy Aotearoa.
"Hahaha, you'll never get in"
smiles, flips down welding mask
Not to mention unguarded stocks of high explosives... or just pouring a fuckload of bleach down their ventilation systems.
Find a few large trucks or tractors and fuck up their emissions systems: i.e. "rolling coal". Drive up to the air intakes and attach the exhausts to the air intakes.
Their CBRN filters will get destroyed in short order and then they're screwed.
Or even easier, bury any exhaust/intakes with some shovels
Just get a concrete truck and seal in the deal. Because some random person could walk by and be corrupted by their promises. Much harder to break through 2 meters of concrete than remove a chair.
What always strikes me about the billionaire shelter with staff is how do they figure they're not going to get praetorian guarded like day two. There's literally no failsafe imaginable that does not end with you dead and/or tortured
The chair won't work on that door. But no bunker is save from an angry mob with Oxygentorches and Jackhammers
No just a welder seal that shit shut. I bet if you run a bead down half the height of the door on the opening and it wouldn't open
I always said, if push comes to shove, I will make it my postapocalyptic endgoal of shitting into every single bunker's air vents until they choke on the fumes.
Let them ~~eat cake~~ breath concrete.
That's why they want the robots.
Bethesda (game developer of Fallout games) called it in Fallout 4. The Vaults as seen in the games (and the TV show) seem to have the purpose of keeping radiation out, in the case of nuclear war. That was the advertised purpose. In Fallout 4 (one of the DLCs), it is revealed that their actual purpose is to build them on other planets. Robots do the terraforming while humanity lives in the bunker, and the humans come out when it's safe.
Elon Musk is trying to get people to Mars. That's where the bunker will be. They'll leave us Earth, after stripping its resources and leaving us with the climate change and all that good stuff.
It's not bathesda idea, oryginal fallouts were meant as a testing chambers for Vault-Tec. Only some were meant literally for survival of the wealthiest.
Though Vault-Tec were not actually very good at their job. The small number of vaults we see in the games that were intended to work as advertised (whether as a control group or something else) all had something go wrong.
They can stay on that planet with a worse climate than whatever we will have after climate change.
I don't think they'll care if they can make machines make them comfortable.
I also don't really believe the Mars thing. I'm just saying, science fiction has already laid the groundwork (and Fallout is just a video game, it's hardly the first medium to suggest this).
A better solution would be under the sea. If they can solve the pressure issue, they can build whole colonies right here on Earth, seal them up, and just drop them in the ocean. Then send submersibles down there. Maybe they can even have staged depth modules where you would descend so far, wait for a week to normalise pressure, then descend to the next level. Each module would have living quarters, medical facilities, all that. The reason I suggest under the sea is, it would be colder (you'd need energy to warm it up) and that would be great for the kinds of AI work they want to do.
Then again, if they just want the cold, they can also remove depth from the equation and set up in the Arctic. Like the northern parts of Canada... or Greenland, which the American president and his cronies are trying to seize (or buy? Not sure on that). Screw it, let them have the northern third, move all of them there, and leave the rest of the world alone.
The idea of colonizing another planet is silly sci-fi nonsense. Neither Elon Musk nor any other billionaire is anywhere near being able to do such a thing in their lifetime. Hell, even the fictional one who claims to be trying to do this in Fallout, Mr. House, is just a lying narcissist who uses that claimed goal to hype himself up as some kind of god among men (along with his empty promise to distribute his life-lengthening tech).
A lot of things we have now would have been considered "silly sci-fi nonsense" not that long ago. I like that you bring up the best Fallout game, New Vegas. I personally preferred 3, but I loved NV for its writing and for not having an ugly green filter over everything. I recognise it was the better game, but I had more fun with its predecessor. Anyone who played adventure games in the 1980s or even the 1990s could not have imagined Fallout: New Vegas. I've been there for most of video games' history and... I mean, shit, look at some of the 8K Cyberpunk videos on YouTube. If they weren't all focused on car mods, I'd love to send some to some Boomers and say "believe it or not, this is a video game." I mean, they get rid of the HUD and everything, it almost looks real. The way the people look really gives it away.
Did Robert House even live that long? When we meet him in the game, he's just a computer. I think the Robo-Brains we saw in the Fallout 4 DLC Far Harbor had a better (more Fallout-cynical view) of longevity, that hotel full of rich peoples' brains in robots pretending they're real people. Head north from the main town and you'll be approached by one of them, it's a real hard quest to miss. It's not integral to the DLC's story, but I don't think it's missable (maybe if you shoot the robot on sight before it can give you the quest — but why would you do that when you could have a fade-to-black sex scene with one of the robots? I am not kidding). Anyway, I was referring to Nuka-World in Fallout 4, where they expressly state that Vault-Tec wants to put Vaults on other planets. Of course Vault-Tec lied to basically everybody, so they are not to be trusted, but if the control vaults (e.g. Vault 101 from Fallout 3) can really protect people from the Wastes (and, minor spoiler, even be opened and let people in and out!), they can probably protect people from space as well (or, I mean, a planet with no atmosphere). Of course, the Garden of Eden Creation Kit (GECK) as presented in Fallout 3, that could potentially terraform a world, was dubious at best even in the games...
A lot of things we have now would have been considered "silly sci-fi nonsense" not that long ago.
Well sure, and I don't doubt that colonization of other celestial bodies is possible (and even desirable) but it is far beyond our reach currently. It's not like we're in the 1700s speculating about how to make an airplane, we're in the 1300s speculating about how to make an airplane. There's a lot of work to be done before we can get there.
Did Robert House even live that long? When we meet him in the game, he's just a computer.
He was like 250 years old in FNV and very much still alive (unfortunately). Though it's kind of a twist when you learn that because it definitely wants you to suspect he's just an AI at first.
It's a nice thought but this scenario will never happen. They probably have multiple hidden entrances and I expect they have plans to make the whole bunker area a dead zone with mines, radiation and drones/robot dogs. Anyone settling close to their bunker would probably be killed before they even came close to the mines and drones.
in that case, people outside have plenty of time to keep trebuchet chemical weapons until we got 1 kobe attempt
The whole bunker scenario is stupid either way. Those things won't run without a lot of workers, it's not like the rich can do anything by themselves. And since they're such total useless assholes, their reign in there can only last so long before someone gets fed up
Well damn, in that case, if I were a billionaire who anticipated an apocalypse, I’d devote most of my resources to developing AI to handle that stuff.
We're still a long way from an AI to be able to unclog a toilet
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