~~farm~~ public sex forest
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I agree with this 100%
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Aren't golf courses incredibly polluted with persistent use of pesticides that should probably be illegal? Maybe development would be better than trying to grow food in toxic soil?
Yeah, the land use doesn't bother me, it's the herbicides and pesticides nuking the bottom of the food chain. And somehow no one seems to have noticed the radical decline in the insect population this century.
OTOH, lawns take up far more space and homeowners are nuking those to death.
I feel like when non-golfers hear "golf course", they are always picturing the hyper-exclusive, PGA level courses that are the domain of rich douchebags, and assuming that all courses are like that. In reality, there's way more cheap 9 hole courses where you can play half a round for $20.
I picture a bunch of grass that’s not doing anything useful. If golf changed the rules to mandate native plants for courses, naturally maintained (eg, no lawnmowers or sprinklers) I’d be slightly less than 100% opposed to its continued existence but that seems unlikely.
I'm no golfer, but many have come into these sorts of threads and saying course are making them more nature friendly. But no my friend, that grass requires intensive care, can't be anything approaching natural.
100%
That grass is not native to the environment, maybe not to any environment, and it’s maintained by the use of clean drinkable water and enough herbicides and pesticides to commit a war crime.
half a round for $20
Still more expensive than if it were a public park and free for anyone to enjoy.
not around here. our dogpatch $20 course went to $50 then closed. now it's a, i don't know, i'd say dog park but we're not supposed to talk about those.
Wait, why aren't we supposed to talk about dog parks?
...so it's only half of 150 wasted acres of arable land?
A food forest.
Related: George Carlin - Golf Courses for the Homeless
https://youtube.com/watch?v=5x8nyw7-9QE
Skip to 5:44 for the actual bit on golf courses. He explains that there are over 17,000 golf courses in the USA, each averaging ~150 acres, all combined total a land area of about ~4820 square miles, which is enough land to make up 2 Rhode Islands and a Delaware!
I seriously doubt that land use approaches those numbers today. I've seen courses close over the last decades, have seen none built.
True that, I've seen at least one golf course closed that's like 10 miles north of us. Do note that I'm not a golfer..
Anyways, all the more reason to open the land up to the unhoused/houseless!
If it's not a coop then you got a new farmer on your hands to deal with though.
I'm just saying: there's a new train system in my city and they could just use one of the golfs near where i live to turn it into a station. I could then walk to take the train and go to school.
They have 3 golfs. One less wouldn't be much, right?
We could afford far fewer golf courses if we dealt with the golfer infestation first, too.
There’s already plenty of productive arable land and humanity over produces food that it simply wastes
Make golf equipment free instead
golf courses need tremendous amount of water, so it would be better to turn it into arable land.
They actually don’t and you can just let them be natural
There’s plenty of arable land, more than we could ever need, it just needs to be used intelligently
My city has won awards for how "eco friendly" their golf courses are, yet the two municipal golf courses still make up a majority of the pesticide use in our 160+ parks.
They actually don't
Yeah, it's not like golf courses accounted for 0.5% of all water use in the US from 2003–2005 or anything. They totally don't use a disproportionate fuckton of water and are definitely a worthwhile use of land. Anything can be true if I just assert shit without substantiating it.
You don’t have to do that
you can just let them be natural and that’s how the first golf courses were and how many still are so you are not making any point
People have golf courses in the desert which uses lots of water but is not arable land, those would have to close obviously
you can just let them be natural
That would limit where you can play golf to natural grasslands with grazing animals. Otherwise trees and shrubs would grow and make the sport as it is now impossible. Large open fairways don't tend to occur naturally so the sport would be more like put-put maneuvering around trees with short strokes than long hundred yard drives that you see on modern courses.
From what I've seen most courses are on land that would naturally be forest if they weren't watered and mowed regularly.
That's how the first golf courses were
The first courses were made in scotland after it had mostly been deforested and turned to sheep grazing land, not natural untouched wilderness.
You’re right it could require some basic mowing and small scale deforestation in certain areas, we’re already in a fantastical thought experiment so perhaps grazing animals overpopulate to protect solar panels
But you certainly wouldn’t have a water concern and could just routinely keep it mowed
You don’t have to do that
but. they. do!
I'd add that enormous portions of farmland are used to grow excessive crops for animal agriculture – required because the second law of thermodynamics doesn't stop for frozen tendies. We already have plenty of farmland for the farcically wasteful western standard diet, let alone for a reasonably efficient and healthy one.
Even if the equipment was free courses still cost money. If you made the courses free too then you'd either have tons of course traffic or a long wait list for tee times where you could probably only get one weekend round in every couple of months if your lucky. It would also put the maintenance cost for courses on the taxpayers which may not be worth it for how many people the course is serving.
Fundamentally golf has a capacity issue that prevents it from being a sport accessible to everyone. A course can only serve 1 group of a couple people per hole, otherwise it gets backed up. Compare a golf hole to a basketball court that can accommodate twice as many people on less then half the space with little to no maintenance cost.