This dude doesn't have a water bill?

You may not pay a lot of attention to how much water you use if you have a well, yes.

On the other hand, if you live in northern Arizona, and you have to pay to have water trucked in, you pay REALLY close attention to how much water you use. I may not waste water by average standards, but by the standards of a person that lives in a desert, I waste enormous amounts of water.

People tend to be less zealous stewards of resources when their lives aren't directly impacted when they personally waste those resources. When resources are managed in some way, people tend to exploit them until they're gone or destroyed. A very real example is the deer population in Georgia; prior to the institution of game control, white-tail deer were hunted into extinction in the state. It took >40 years, and the unwavering efforts of a single DNR employee, to reintroduce white-tail deer back into Georgia.

This isn't me saying that capitalism makes the most efficient use of resources, because it obviously doesn't. But resources that belong to all--like clean air and water--need to be managed in some way so that they continue to be available to all.

Nothing is for free and that applies to communism too.

Except this is exactly how billionaires operate

It's funny how billionaires all seem to have 10 houses isn't it?

Just to add an anecdotal example, I used to live in a condo complex where each building contained 10 units which all shared one master meter. Instead of each unit having it's own water meter all 10 units would be billed as one. Functionally it didn't matter because the water bill for all the buildings was paid by the HOA through our HOA dues which were fixed at $185 per month.

Shortly before I moved the HOA was having significant issues with the water bill because while most buildings had a monthly bill of ~$600 (or $60 average per unit) two buildings had a monthly water bill of ~$2500 per month (or $250 average per unit). The HOA had had the city come out twice to look for exterior leaks and had paid three different plumbers to check for internal leaks, but either they couldn't find one or simply there wasn't one.

If we assume that there was no leak, and the average per unit water usage should be $60, and only one unit was spiking the water usage that would mean one unit was using $1960 per month of water.

I later heard from people I knew there that the HOA had found one unit was being rented to a family with 10 people in a 2 bedroom who was also running an illegal restaurant from the unit (as in people were coming up to the front window and buying styrofoam trays of food to go).

I don't hate the hustle or people trying to get by, but I've absolutely have seen situations where people getting something for free means they over use it.

I dont pay for sewage and I crap as much as I want, too.

Well, in some apartment complex the water is included in the rent. It assumes everyone uses roughly the same amount but of course some uses more then others. Often the water consumption decreases when the apartments are updated and have to pay for their own water.

One specific case that was in the media a couple of years ago. He lived in an apartment where the water was included and he had a tortoise. He tortoise liked warm water so the guy filled up his bathtub and had the tortoise in it, and in order to keep the water warm he let the warm water flow continuously. Of course this resulted in a huge water bill for the company which owned the apartments and they sued the guy. If I remember correctly the court ruled that he used such a vast amount that he should have known it was not included and he was forced to pay back all the water.

There is no problem if the resource is abundant, the problem is when resource is limited and not enough for everybody

Having good health care means you just consume as much medicine as you can. I get vaccinated every day, I own 500 pairs of glasses, and all my teeth have been root canaled

yep. also people wont do any work if they dont have to because all their needs are met. this is why all rich people are retired.

This is so wrong. I don‘t know where you live, but at least in Germany tap water is not free. Of course everyone drinks roughly the same amount of water, but most water is consumed in other ways where it totally matters to price it. For example taking a bath consumes much more water than showering. People have private pools where one fill-up can easily double the water consumption of a year.

The water pricing is actually progressive so the more you consume the more you have to pay per amount. This allows cheap prices for the average consumer and discourages to overconsume.

Water is precious and shouldn‘t be treated as an abundance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox

I know this is a joke but... Communism doesn't mean "free stuff". Probably the opposite of what this joke implies, it's communal ownership. You wouldn't waste water if you felt it was your water. People waste water when they feel it's someone else's water (government, landlord).

Humans will take more than they need of what’s free, if there’s a way to turn it into profit for them. If profit is allowed to be a way to secure power and control, there will always be be a desire to hoard for oneself.

Capitalism rewards hoarding and profiting, and also rewards making the in group as small as possible.

Other factors can cause hoarding as well to be clear, such as fear of scarcity/needs not being met.

Its like 'but anarchism is so corruptable and exploitable!' When liberalism is being owned by fasch and the biggest centralized statist communist powers either dissolved from corruption or turned shitlib.

The reactionaries can only complain about themselves and replace nouns to slander us.

I keep thinking of one of the old videos I saw.

"...I dunno, maybe we should get rid of all of the landlords!"

"But who would we then pay rent to?"

I was, like, holy shit, things are so much more complicated than I even realised, everything is based on some dumb suppositions or some shit.

And why would there not be a limit to free water

That example misunderstands both communism and human behavior. Free access doesn’t mean unlimited misuse; rules, responsibility, and social norms still exist. By that logic, free roads would mean everyone drives endlessly until they crash. Reality is more complex than that.

Your tap water is free?

This is why no pure economic theory will work in practice. Too many humans are ignorant psychos.

:D

Reminded me of the response I have my irc bot offer any time someone says "human nature":

did someone say human nature? you mean like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQnUFxoFqNY yes?

(To which I've now added that image link).

Meanwhile people living in literal deserts are draining the water table to grow lush green lawns and fill swimming pools ...