alekwithak

Meanwhile every YouTube commenter screaming to bring this creepazoid back 👀👀👀

It's what Malcolm would want.

You're correct in that you never said they were immigrants. You said they were a family living 10 people to a two bedroom and running a restaurant that sells food out the window. This is an extremely common immigration tactic, and doesn't occur much outside of that scenario, but okay I will withdraw my assumption. The rest, however, remains the same. These people weren't stealing cars, they weren't stealing anything from anyone. Their water use wasn't stealing. Their water use didn't take water out of your house and it didn't adversely affect anyone or anything aside from a poorly planned HOA water monitoring system. Like you said, these units are owned primarily by single owners. Why shouldn't they have individual meters? $180 a month is a miserable HOA fee and a high water bill for a single person in a condo alone as well. I don't know why they'd have to pay for their own meter or monitoring service, that's never been the case anywhere I've ever lived, but I'm positive they saved money in the long run assuming the HOA reflected the change in their monthly dues. But again, they didn't steal and they didn't fuck over their neighbors. They fed people, boosted the local economy, and shone a light on shitty HOA practices.

Also, why should they have individual meters in the first place when the existing system had worked for over a decade without issue

So any system that has functioned historically should never be reconsidered or replaced? Who exactly was it working for? Are you worried about the bottom line of your HOA?

Let me put it into perspective, these two abnormal building bills accounted for $47,000 a year in extra water charges or about 20% of the HOA's annual budget (and that's just the excess, not the rest of the bill).

But yeah, it's ok to fuck over your neighbors because you're struggling and corporations are worse.

I've gotta say, it sounds like the only ones doing the fucking over here are the HOA to it's tenants, then using the totally not migrant renters as a scapegoat. pretty typical HOA stuff in my experience.

Did you? Do you have some kind of point? See, I can be incredulous, too.

The ice recedes enough to get a ship in and break the ice up further to have a good look underneath. This will inevitably exacerbate the issue. You refute that? What are you asking me?

Right, the surface ice. The surface ice that has remained unbroken for centuries that they now have access to. So they sent in an icebreaker ship to break the ice and survey the water underneath. I read the article, not really sure what your point is.

That's speculation at best.

I mean that's what you're doing, too. That's part of having a conversation. There are statistics that back my speculation, but at the end of the day we're discussing strangers.

That being said, people making the best of their situation are never taking advantage of a system, especially a system designed specifically to keep them down. You think they're crammed into that condo, five to a bedroom, by choice? The 32x water usage is nothing compared to what corporations take from us every second of every minute of every day when they're actually taking advantage of the system. This family is, again, feeding people and simply trying to survive. The system wants you to condemn the family of immigrants rather than the single billionaires taking exponentially more from each of us and doing exponentially more damage. And that's not speculation, that's how it is. And they should have had individual meters in the first place, so let's not act like that's the consequence of some grave injustice, either. Would have prevented the whole issue in the first place.

There are plenty of studies showing how smaller ice pieces melt faster.

They weren't over using it because it was free, though, that's the thing. They were using it for a legitimate purpose: feeding others and supporting themselves financially. They didn't choose how the complex handled billing for water, and people like this will usually happily pay their fair share given the opportunity. We as a society act like people cramming their ten person family into a two bedroom apartment are the ones taking advantage of the system when it's 1000% the other way around.

But that's exactly what the article says they're doing. Exploring a previously inaccessible body of water due to the previously permanent Arctic ice.

Futurama did it first, and it didn't go well.

The immutable thing is nice, though it takes some getting used to. It's Fedora which I already love, without any of the hassle. Everything just works. I never realized how much time I was wasting until I didn't have to do it anymore. Every task I throw at it, it performs beautifully, even things I'm sure aren't going to work out of the box do. Every time, so far.