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[–] Hux@lemmy.ml 137 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This is interesting—it implies he intentionally committed suicide while also implicating Trump as a fellow sex offender.

[–] UncleArthur@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's the suicide reference that caught my attention too. Perhaps he was given no alternative.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're not dead, no one cares.

If you're dead, it now explicitly ties the person who pressured you to do it to your own crimes.

I think he even sent it to such a shit stain of a person just for optics. Maybe even to a known bad address knowing it won't bounce back till you did it?

But still, pretty sure they read mail both out and into prisons...

So it's weird this was postmarked days ahead of time. It makes it look like he was allowed to commit suicide and had no motive to hide it.

I think it's one of those "two clever by half" things. He wanted to be subtle and sprinkle implications, but an actual video tape of trump doing horrible things wouldn't even matter now.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Epstein does sound like an unbearably pretentious and self-important man, even apart from all the abuse of minors. And he surrounded himself with other unbearably self-important men.

There's a reason Trump was on his mind at the endm

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Or he knew he was about to be taken care of.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

That's how I read it, too. I find it especially weird he says, "Our president" instead of using his name, as if pointing a finger.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

"no longer at this address" lmfao

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I can't read it. Can someone translate please?

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Dear L. N.

As you know by now, I have taken the "short route" home. Good luck! We shared one thing... our love and caring for young ladies and the hope they'd reach their full potential.

Our president also shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to "grab snatch," whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system.

Life is unfair.

Yours, J. Epstien

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 81 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The sitting president of the United States of America is a child rapist.

And conservatives are rallying behind that child rapist.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Conservativism itself says that everyone is part of a strict social hierarchy, and that those above have complete power over those below.

Which makes the "ideology" incredibly attractive to a certain type of predator.

[–] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 98 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Movie version: Thousands of pages of perfectly redacted and edited papers come out, and one tiny detail leads to unraveling of the entire conspiracy, reveals the perpetrators, and brings down an entire corrupt empire.

Reality: Everything is so blatantly incompetently being doctored in broad daylight - like a child claiming he didn't eat the cookies while in the process of eating the cookies, that everyone is actually too stunned by the absurdity to do anything.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 21 points 4 days ago

Not too stunned. They think they will get some of the cookie crumbs falling in the carpet. Like the dog.

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 4 days ago

It's kayfabe. Blindboy (Irish musician) explains it well here with Ash Sarkar (English journalist/activist):

https://youtube.com/shorts/gs1-ebayUIs

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The letter was postmarked “just days after Epstein died” in 2019, according to the progressive media company MeidasTouch. It was addressed to Larry Nassar, the convicted serial sex offender who was sentenced to 60 years in prison for abusing hundreds of children and young women.

In the alleged letter, Epstein addresses Nassar as “L.N.,” and makes a startling reference to “our president,” which would have been Trump at the time it was allegedly written.

“As you know by now, I have taken the ‘short route’ home. Good luck! We shared one thing… our love & caring for young ladies at the hope they'd reach their full potential,” the letter reads.

“Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls. When a young beauty walked by he loved to ‘grab ------,’ whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls of the system. Life is unfair. Yours, J. Epstein”

The redacting marker probably ran out ink...

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

“Our president shares our love of young, nubile girls.

barf

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The full potential part was the worst. Sick reflection on how these groomers think they're doing something good for these girls. Also the life isn't fair part. ... Yeah, for the thousands of lives you destroyed permanently. Rot in hell kid fucking monsterous piece of shit.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

It’s definitely unfair that nasser and Epstein got jail time while trump didn’t. Only one way to fix that now

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 3 points 3 days ago

To anyone reading, “destroyed permanently” refers to the murders and suicides, not the survivors. That is never the language we use for survivors, no matter how atrocious the particulars, because it reinforces the same purity culture that purveys (1) a great deal of the associated suffering, trauma, and stigma, and (2) the obsession with defilement that many rapists share.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Probably couldn’t ctrl-f an image and they were too dumb to transcribe it.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

It's teacher handwriting, which is alien script to them.

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[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Jesus it's like a league of perverted supervillains.

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[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago (3 children)
[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 4 days ago

Holy hell. Black highliter, again. 3 days ago I mentioned I was able to do this with some Slovakian censored documents, and here I see it again.

Perhaps it's intentional this time. "Oops, my bad!"

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago

I’m surprised someone hasn’t spooked the entire right wing with “we fed the epstein files into ChatGPT to unredact them”, they all (especially in trump’s circle) act like they believe it could do that.

[–] grinde@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago

Oh wow. I looked at the raw contents of a couple pdfs, but those ones were done properly so I just assumed it was a dead end.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

His indication that he took the “short route” home implies he wrote the letter before committing suicide. It certainly implicates Trump, but the conspiracy theorists will not be happy.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If he did, why the hell would they go through all the trouble of claiming the tapes were lost, then releasing obviously doctored footage, and putting out some shitty animation passed as the real thing? Seems like it would have been unnecessary.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe he was on suicide watch. The prison guards would have been implicated as complicit if the whole thing was on camera.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago

Well, yeah. He was on suicide watch, but also right before he was to testify, just happened he was given a bit of time where the prison guards left him alone, and the tapes “stopped” recording. Assisted or not that’s at best negligence and coincidence, at worst actively complicit and planned.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Suicide vs assisted suicide?

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I’d think so too. I doubt he had much choice in the matter.

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[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

How should he have written the letter after the assumed suicide?

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've always leaned toward suicide over assassination.

The assasination scenario is very Hollywood, but everyone in this administration is pretty incompetent and it would be pretty ballsy for someone with access to Epstein to do it. It's just not as likely as suicide, when the guy was looking at being behind bars for eternity.

Doesn't in any way imply Donald Trump isn't a child rapist though.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I expected incompetence would end up releasing some of what wasn't intended to be released. Now we have this, and the poorly "redacted" PDF files.

I wonder how much more will come from this.

I also wonder if it was a mistake at all.

[–] RunningInRVA@lemmy.world 37 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump isn’t referenced by name. The AI scanner probably missed it. This letter almost appears as if it was expressly written to implicate Trump.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 4 days ago

So it was a plant by Biden to both implicate trump AND cover up the murder of friend of the president Jeffrey Epstein. How diabolical!

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It is written in cursive. Their automated system probably couldn't read it

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've been somewhat avoiding the news (for my sanity), but I have heard that some of the PDFs turned out to be badly redacted and the original text is accessible programmatically. Do you happen to have a link to one? I'm a developer and have worked with PDFs extensively in the past. I'd love to delve into one and un-redacted it.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Do these people really think people aren't downloading and archiving everything they release immediately? Incompetent morons.

[–] obviouspornalt@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Or malicious compliance and feigned incompetence. "Oopsie! I think I accidentally published one of the naughty files! It looks like someone already downloaded it. I should fix my mistake and unpublish this. The CMS is so tricky! I can't believe I keep making this mistake!"

[–] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 20 points 4 days ago

Winning!!! Just so much winning! America is past great!

[–] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

His body guard did say after he died: "He had help to do that." Or something like that.

I still don't think he chose to do it

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[–] nocturne@piefed.social 8 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Did the story get pulled from raw story? The only thing loading from the link for me is the comments.

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