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[–] natecox@programming.dev 232 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

These posters should be illegal.

[–] positiveWHAT@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It's a nice reminder that one is in a capitalist hellhole. Like taken from a dystopian game.

[–] notreallyhere@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

is this poster real tho?

Seems low effort

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

I’ve seen several from this campaign and they’re so dumb I feel like someone was maliciously compliant in making these so that Delta’s opposition to the union would actually encourage more people to vote to join. Like, management came to someone in marketing, but that person actually wanted to support the union effort.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 27 points 3 weeks ago

In a lot of countries it would be illegal.

In a lot of countries the unions became powerful enough to be governments, and implemented anti-union busting laws.

For some reason the United States seems to have skipped a bunch of the social development that went on in other countries. Unfortunately this is probably because of the American psyche and their obsession with the idea that rags to riches is possible, despite all the evidence. So nobody wants to limit their own potential wealth by giving away money to the workers, just in case one day they become the wealthy. The end result is that a bunch of people have to work for Amazon.

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[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 83 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s like one month of US health insurance next year. Way more than worth it over being at the whims of some fuckhead corporation

[–] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ScrollerBall@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 72 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I guess Delta thinks their employees are complete fucking morons.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 22 points 3 weeks ago

Given Delta hired them and saw their education level, they’re probably right.

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[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 70 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

It should be illegal to put up stuff like this.

[–] XM34@feddit.org 41 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

In the civilised world (Aka everywhere but the US), it is!

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[–] JelleWho@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

It cost them 700, not you. You will gain from an Union

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It costs you 700 now and it costs them an unknown amount in the future. They just don't like it because they suspect it'll be quite a lot more than the 700 that you're paying to join. They're right too.

But union dues are annoying in the moment, because when it happens all you see is a reduction in your pay and initially no change in working conditions. That's why they have posters like that up, because even though intellectually people understand that being in a union will long-term result in better pay, in the short term it does effectively result in a temporary pay cut, which can be hard if you're already not really very well paid.

If you're joining an established union sometimes they will be smart and not charge members until they've renegotiated their salaries. But that only happens if you're joining a already formed union.

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[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No it'll cost you, it comes out of your after tax wage. But it's an investment into you and your colleagues futures for better wages, stronger protections and benefits.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

The protections are key here. I'd take a slightly lower wage for a healthy work environment any day, and I know that most people agree.

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[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

In my country you can get union dues back as a tax deduction.

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[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Remember, if your company is telling you how great something is, it is great for them, not you.

[–] Overconfidentiality@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Right, if you ever see an poster or video anywhere, consider that the message was something someone felt was worth spending money on. And if it was a business, why would a business spend money unless it could somehow benefit its bottom line?

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

Haha my Union Dues... 240/yr.

Pay in the five years before the union....no increase. 20 years of union, pay up 100%.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 37 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Scumbags. What the hell is this 'murkin propaganda? It's like the whole country is unironically trying to become the Sith.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My union dues are about 800 a year, we'd be lucky to make only 10,000 less a year without the union, and have way less protections. Joining a union is one of the best investments you can make.

[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 36 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Two questions:

  1. Is this for real?
  2. Does it work?

I feel like a large company going to that kind of effort to explicitly tell me to not spend money on something would have the exact opposite effect. It’s not like they’re saying “unions are bad, actually” it just like “this thing you were going to spend money on, maybe don’t?”

Imagine a poster saying “Drugs are really expensive - you’ll get more value for money if you buy videogames” - would that work?

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[–] srestegosaurio@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Sharlot@lemmy.world 35 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Classic misdirection: compare dues to a toy instead of the extra pay, healthcare, and protections.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

This is why corporate America wants our population uneducated and tuned out and hooked on AI slop and distractions.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 27 points 3 weeks ago

"Explain."

"Money can be exchanged for goods and services."

"Woohoo!"

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 23 points 3 weeks ago

When I worked at Best buy over 10 years ago they had the exact same propaganda. You know instead of union dues you could buy an Xbox! (From us no less!)

...okay I added that last bit but it was implied

[–] toiletobserver@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] Old_Jimmy_Twodicks@sh.itjust.works 57 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Wages can be exchanged for goods and services.

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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It’s a complicated concept but higher wages means you make more money.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Many years ago I had to explain to a coworker how progressive taxation works. He was like "that's a great idea! We should do that! It's stupid that now your pay goes up but you take home less because you get taxed more"

I had to tell him, yes it is a good idea. It's how it works now. You don't get more pay and suddenly your whole income is taxed more.

He'd had no idea

I’ve literally heard coworkers mention the whole “I actually don’t want a raise because my taxes would go up and I’d make less” bullshit before. I do what I can to redirect them when I hear it, but some people are extremely dug into their worldview and don’t want to be helped. Like acknowledging a progressive tax rate would require acknowledging that their entire concept of income and taxation is built on a lie.

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[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Higher whatsit? Huh? What are your taking about? These words don't normally go together I don't understand.

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[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

Delta knows their audience. Many pilots lean Republican and see themselves as rugged individualists that have made their own path. Meanwhile, the only reason they're flying in many cases are socially funded training programs. Many from the military.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

In Australia, Union fees are tax deductible.

They don't cost you anything in the end.

[–] Delphia@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago

Thats not how tax deductions work.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That just means you’re not paying taxes on the income. It’s not like you get the entire $700 back in taxes, because your tax rate probably isn’t 100%. If you pay 30% in taxes, (no clue what you actually pay), writing off the $700 would simply mean you pay $210 less on your taxes.

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[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Tape the meme onto the poster

[–] PetulantBandicoot@aussie.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

Union fees are also 100% tax deductible in Australia, so it's all a win-win.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
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