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[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.world 124 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So spotify has stolen their music. We have the technology to do anything we want, but someone needs to pay for it. Billionaires are holding us back. Billionaires are choosing not to end hunger or poverty. Remember that: rich people are choosing not to end hunger, homeless, or poverty. In fact, the rich are making it worse.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 67 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So gross. I'm not going back to Spotify.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 63 points 1 month ago

But given the AI imitations that are still invading Release Radar and Discover Weekly playlists, which the company prominently recommends to its users

This is the turbo-shitty part of the whole thing.

Facebook do this as well; they act like they've got too many users to police everything that gets uploaded, and you could almost believe them on that, but they sure as fuck have the resources to be able to police what they're choosing to boost.

They're choosing not to do that, because The Algorithm is highly tuned around "how many dollars can we make next month" and they'd rather use that as their metric.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 55 points 1 month ago

Recently read Spotify is running ads for the USA gestapo.

Fully unsubbed/deleted same day. Hell to the no.

[–] LaMouette@jlai.lu 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you know that in the US you can copy spotify AI knockoff and sell them ? As it is not human produced, they are not protected by IP laws 🤭

Problem is that because they are not human produced they are worthless.

[–] wizblizz@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spotify is an advertising platform, first and foremost. They don't give a fuck about music or artists.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used Spotify super early and it's crazy how anti consumer and musicians they are, or became. Every now and then they smuggled in some ads and every time it was like: omg what a weird glitch. Podcasts, you would still hear their stupid ads. Oh well, then they suddenly injected ads into podcasts, wait, why do i pay for ads now? Seriously they deserve to go under.

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[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Kind Gizzard can still drop albums faster than AI.

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Have they beaten Buckethead yet?

In 2011, Buckethead began releasing albums in the "Pike" series, mini-albums usually around 30 minutes in length, each with a sequential number similar to a comic book. As of October 2024, Buckethead has released 662 Pike albums, including almost 300 live recordings.

These seem to be him jamming straight onto the record.

[–] harmbugler@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Goodness me, not close! King Gizzard are certainly prolific but not on that scale!

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Their live shows are basically giant jam sessions with their songs mixed in.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That is illegal in germany. So i wonder how that now works

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If anything, Germany is one country where this would actually be legal...

Wenn das Original bereits veröffentlicht wurde und bei einer Verwertungsgesellschaft wie der GEMA registriert ist, bedarf es keiner Erlaubnis des Urhebers, denn diese verwaltet die Nutzungsrechte der registrierten Künstler. Grundsätzlich ist die GEMA allerdings verpflichtet, jedem, der einen urheberrechtlich geschützten Song nutzen will, diese Rechte einzuräumen.

Gem. § 11 UrhWahrnG unterliegt die GEMA einem Kontrahierungszwang und dies in doppelter Hinsicht: Auf der einen Seite ist die GEMA ihren Mitgliedern verpflichtet, die ihr übertragenen Rechte wahrzunehmen, auf der anderen Seite ist darüber hinaus in der Pflicht, dem Musiknutzer diese Rechte auf Nachfrage gegen Entgelt einzuräumen. Damit ist das das Covern von verschiedenen Musiktiteln größtenteils erlaubt, auch wenn es einigen Künstlern sicherlich nicht gefallen wird.

https://www.juraforum.de/news/ist-das-covern-von-musik-erlaubt_247126

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No. The GEMA lawsuit in November prohibited training ai on music, or use AI to create or distribute music (atleast from how i understood it)

[–] bonenode@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Big if true. All those years of shit because of GEMA and now this. Guess a broken clock and so on...

I mean the broken clock is still wrong in this case. Everyone should be able to pirate anything, the issue so far is that only companies get a free pass while individuals get sued into bankruptcy.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Spotify hates musicians. Bandcamp, Tidal if you need Spotify like service.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I still use Pandora. I know they still lowball artist payments (not as bad as Spotify though) but I've never been presented with AI music on there as of yet.

[–] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

im on spotify and also have not gotten any AI music. nor have i seen any ads for ICE that i keep hearing about. all im missing is gizz really but that can easily be downloaded. just time consuming due to sheer amount of songs

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pandora just repeats the same set of songs over and over and over and over for me. Then you go over to the next radio, plays few popular songs and then the start repeating the ones you liked many moons ago again.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I know it doesn't matter much, but it pleases me that Spotify isn't getting my money.

[–] dellhiver@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I literally got recommended this AI band as well. Normally I can search: "X band AI" and I get results whether or not they are real.

All I had were 50 pages about the original band leaving Spotify.

I blocked this suspicious sounding band in-case it was AI. Looks like I was right.

Just as a note: earlier this year I stated I'd keep subscribing to Spotify because the recommendations were worth the cost. I was wrong, and I'm slowly starting my transition away.

[–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

I just don't understand anyone wpuld Listen to an AI knockoff of KG when you can find all of their concerts uploaded by their official bootlegger on the archive.

[–] binarytobis@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Them pulling out of Spotify was the last push I needed to switch to Tidal. The only downside for me is there was a spotify exclusive cover of Daisy by Wet Leg that you can’t get anywhere else.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Giz has all of their stuff on bandcamp for pay what you can

Wet leg is in there too

Join mp3 gang and leave streaming behind

[–] pet1t@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (9 children)

any recs for good mp3 players? hard to find an affordable good condition ipod classic nowadays

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

old phone whats still got the plug

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Winamp really whips the llama's ass

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[–] DV8@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Qobuz allows you to stream but also to buy high quality albums which you can then download as well. Of course choose the option you prefer as long as you support bands you listen to. I bought plenty of King Gizzard albums on Bandcamp too now. Other bands I buy vinyl from that sometimes also means I get codes for those albums on Bandcamp. And through Qobuz artists I listen to at least get higher reimbursement for those streams.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

One complaint I have about Qobuz isn't even Qobuz fault.

But often my purchased track are removed shortly after purchase.

The DMCA trolling is so bad that Qobuz has to prunt a warning that you download your tracks ASAP after purchase.

That said i can't find better services than Qobuz and Bandcamp.

[–] DV8@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

My biggest complaint is they act like everyone in Belgium speaks French. And you can't choose your language for either communication or interface, they base it of country. So despite being part of a majority of Dutch speakers, I get everything in French, including French language artists.

Still worth it though.

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Bandcamp gets so much of my money....it's the best service

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

🏴‍☠️

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 month ago

I haven't used spotify for years. I never paid for it. I've been buying music (mostly from Bandcamp) and I have no regrets. I try to see bands live when I can, too, and buy a shirt or something.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago

Repulsive.

Also, can't they sue?

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I honestly never went to Spotify. I listen to music between YT and Soundcloud most of the time, just about every song you can think of is on there and a lot of indie artists you never heard of, although SoundCloud appears to be getting worse by the day you now need to close 3 popup windows before you're allowed to listen to music without signing in and a lot of the music on there is sped up or has a sharp ping in it to avoid detection algorithms.

[–] titanicx@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

God I really hate yt music. I fucking miss Google music. It was one of the best players out there.

[–] w3ird_sloth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm currently using OpenTune. Works great. What are you guys on?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

musicolet (phone) mediamonkey (desktop)

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

Holy shit I forgot about media monkey. Trying to remember the one I used to use on Linux. Clementine I think? There was a good KDE and GNOME one I remember.

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