Uh... Lotta people in not Italy with Italian grandmothers are in not Italy because their Grandma fled fascism.
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Me, on the lookout for fascist nonas, as I break my spaghetti
Americans love to pull up this kind of bullshit, but it really falls even flatter after 2024. You can't do "nazi bar" rhetoric while you have an unmarked militia disappearing people off the streets and doing fuck all about it
Normalize scrolling past threads unrelated to US politics if that's all you want to post about.
Man, this meme sure was spot on...
My Italian grandpa escaped a Nazi camp and brought his wife and my mom to America. Now I need to escape my family back to Italy. Funny how that worked out
Shooting fascists and risking everything for liberty. We should all follow her example. That also means you don’t break the pasta.
Didn't we fight fascism for the freedom to not give a fuck about "conservative" and "traditional" "values"... most of which are based on nothing more than opinions and feefees?
Parading the body of Mussolini through Italy by his ankles.
1940 was 85 years ago, so unless said 👵 is over a 💯 years old, she was only a child back then.
Grandma was supporting fucking "gugu gaga" movement in the 1940, did you think she was born in fucking 1918?
People's average age is about 44 in Italy, while a generation in the second half of the 20th century lasted about 29 years there.
So for two generations:
44+2*29=102
So the grandma of the average Italian would have been 17 years old in 1940 and thus was not born in 1918, but in 1923.
No "gugu gaga", but still quite young.
On average.
There is this nice little book by Alberto Grandi that looks at the history of Italian cuisine and finds out that many of those "old food traditions" were invented after WW2. It's really a great read if you want to talk a look behind this italian food snobbery:
https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20250227-is-there-no-such-thing-as-italian-cuisine
Broke spaghetti last night while cooking for dinner. I also threw it against the cabinet to make sure it was done cooking.
I have a toddler so cooking "rules" go out the window for laughter.
It's 2025. There's barely a person on Lemmy whose grandma's were more than 15 years old in the early 1940's.
My grandma was born in 1929, grandpa in 1926, so they'd be 97 and 100 next year, and were approaching their 20s in the 40s. But that's just me. I'm not even 40. There are plenty of people on Lemmy over 40, 50, 60. 😛
She was a child... But what does that have to do with spaghetti anyway?
And she was likely born in New York City.
My grandma was a first generation immigrant from Italy and would not have given a shit. I don't have a strong preference but not everyone wants longass spaghetti.
There's 37643782 pasta shapes and they all taste good
passive aggressively breaks orzo in half while maintaining eye contact
For people who don't realize how confusing this would be, this is what orzo looks like:

I love trying different pasta shapes. When I was single, I would keep several different types, and when I'd make pasta, I'd mix them up in the same pot. Fun!
Until I got married, and found out that some people are profoundly insulted by mixed pastas. It's not one of those things that couples discuss before marriage like kids, or which side of the bed they prefer, so it sort of blind sides you when it occurs.
I have also found that many people have strong preferences about shapes, and truly hate some shapes, claiming they taste bad. It's all pasta, shape shouldn't matter, but there is no negotiating with these people. Because of this, I seldom enjoy Farfalle anymore.
"Tastes bad" is not a good description but different shapes DO have different textures and hold different amounts of sauce. That's my reason for not mixing shapes, I want one consistent dish
not everyone wants longass spaghetti
I bet long ass-spaghetti is someone's fetish, though 🤷
To me, breaking spaghetti is just a big sign that someone is a novice at cooking. It's done because the person thinks they can't fit them in the pot and are too inexperienced to know that the noodles will soften enough in just a few seconds to push them the rest of the way in.
It's less "My Italian ancestors would be horrified" and more "Do you know what you're doing? Would you like some help before you ruin whatever dish you're trying to make?"
Or maybe they have kids who have trouble eating full length spaghetti
Or they want an effortless-to-eat meal, not having to choose between getting all dirty and spending more time rolling the damn pasta on the fork than eating
To me, the breaking of spaghetti is just a thing smug snobs like to use as a call out to make others feel less than.
If someone breaks pasta noodles, who fucking cares? It tastes the same!
I’ve been cooking homemade from scratch pastas for over 30 years. I break the spaghetti if I feel like the dish needs shorter noodles. So no, I know exactly what I’m doing and I don’t need your help.
Ffs… thinking a dish is “ruined” because someone Broke the spaghetti. LMAO!
I can use a slightly smaller pot if I break the spaghetti
“Ruin” lmao also 0 difference to my tastebuds
You honestly believe breaking the pasta has a chance of ruining it? Lol
Or they just like smaller pieces. I don’t break pasta, but also spaghetti is a pretty shit shape for pasta and it feels like just weak attempt at a noodle more than anything.
I swear, people that cook Italian food just have zero creativity. “Oh I only use two ingredients but they’re quality” is such a lame excuse. “Yea this plate of mediocre pasta costs $25-30 no matter where you go but if you ignore the pho place next door it’s a pretty good deal!” Like, just a bunch of losers who don’t enough going for them so they get all juiced up on being pricks over their mediocre food.
I personally don't break spaghetti, but a friend of mine once asked what difference it would make for taste and consistency, and i didn't have an answer.
I have answers for both, Pasta cooks according to thickness, not length. If breaking the Pasta allows it to be submerged entirely, it will only aid it in cooking evenly.
Next break a fucking donut in half and ask if that changes the flavor.
If it fits in the pan, no break
If it doesn't fit in the pan and you don't have a tall pan, break
If you have a tall pan, and you have no compulsion or impairment preventing you from enjoying full length noodles, get your fucking life together what were you thinking trying to break the pasta like that?
You don't have to break it. Just place it in the boiling pot and slowly push down on the pasta. It starts to go soft faster than you think.
My Italian grandmother taught me to break the spaghetti. Also, my Italian grandfather fought for the Allies in WW1, coming to the US in 1923 the last year before the xenophobic, 1924 anti-immigration bill was passed essentially cutting off immigration. He came with his pregnant sister through many trials on a long boat cruise to re-unite her with her husband who was already living in the US. So by 1940 my Italian grandmother was supporting the US where she had lived for over a decade. Please do not make assumptions about people's Italian grandmothers.
BTW my grandfather was a bit of a bad-ass, he served in the Arditi, Italian shock-troops who specialized in explosives and close quarter combat with edged weapons. He taught me to shoot a rifle when I was 7!
My grandparent was hiding from the Nazis with their family, as a child?
They also were pushed to stay in the US because Italy wasn’t exactly great postwar, either. Unfortunately here is a more explicitly fascist hellhole now, too.
We also ate broken spaghetti growing up. It’s fine.