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These are my most recent monthly State Farm vehicle insurance payments, from most recent ($114.35) to sometime back in 2021 ($69.32). I have no control over how much or little they decide to take out of my bank account every month. I noticed it steadily going up over the months until suddenly my December payment DECREASED by $16.75. I really don't feel like contacting my insurance company with this trifling question but I am curious what affects their fluctuating prices.

$114.35 (December 2025) $131.10 (November 2025) $131.10 $131.10 $131.10 $131.10 $131.10 $122.45 $122.45 $122.45 $122.45 $122.45 $122.45 $121.87 $121.87 $121.87 $121.87 $121.87 $121.87 $100.89 $100.89 $100.89 $100.89 $100.89 $100.89 $95.40 $84.24 $83.56 $83.56 $69.32 (January 2021)

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Their reason for doing this is "dynamic service cost estimates can change the costs of the service" but it's really just arbitrary

Insurance companies can charge whatever they want and people have to pay or they can't afford Healthcare. You pay or you die

Insurance is a racket.

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is vehicle insurance, not health insurance.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

This is how every insurance adjusts rates.

But yeah car insurance is maybe even more of a scam because you are legally required to pay it if you want to drive a car which is a requirement to participate in society.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

There are usually two factors that can cause auto insurance rates to change:

  1. Something happened to you personally that caused your rates to change. Like if you were in an accident (and especially if you were deemed at fault), or if you're vehicle changed in some way. There are other factors too, but those are probably the most common ones.
  2. Your zip code was reassessed and is now deemed to be more or less risky from an insurance perspective. This decision is separated from your personal actions, but it can still have an impact on your individual rates. And there's no really transparency on how or why the insurance company comes to a conclusion on this aspect. Which sucks.

My guess is the second factor is thinking into play for you and your rates.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can also just change insurance companies when 2 happens. My rates doubled two years ago, so I switched providers and went back down to the rate I was at previously. Very common.

[–] ski11erboi@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I did this two years when state farm raised my rates and gave me some bullshit reason that simple math proved false. My new agency has actually decreased my rates every year since.

Don't forget data brokers and car manufacturers selling everyone's personal info to insurabce companies

[–] unsettlinglymoist@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah the zip code reassessment seems like the most likely explanation. Maybe the rate of accidents, car thefts and vandalism went down in OP's zip code, so the insurance company lowered their premium.

I recently moved one mile away to a different zip code and GEICO increased my premium from $130 to $175 which I understand is very expensive for what I'm getting for coverage. I've never filed a claim, never been at fault for an accident, my car isn't worth much and my only traffic violation was speeding more than a decade ago. Weirdly enough my pet insurance premium decreased by $25 when I moved. 🤷‍♂️

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Okay I know Trump is a sebaceous cyst on Earth's asshole but this is an entirely different matter. I'm wondering why my insurance went DOWN after starting ridiculously low then steadily climbing.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Your vehicle is also getting older and cheaper to insure. You may also have had something fall of your driving record.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

or they hopped an age bracket. your insurance goes down once you hit 35-40.

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

someone needs to tell that to my insurance company

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Do vehicles cost less to insure when they get older? Somehow I thought it would be the other way around.

And I've never had any insurance claims or traffic violations on my driving record ever whatsoever ✨ 😁

[–] SippyCup@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Your car's replacement value goes down with age, that's one of the bigger factors determining how much your insurance costs.

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Based on your monthly costs it appears that your rates are adjusting during policy renewals (as it seems to be on a 6 month cycle). Looks like it's automatically renewing, probably with the same coverage, but whatever current rate is. As far as what affected the price, you'd have to compare itemized bills between policies and see which aspects of your coverage changed prices. Maybe one year you went long enough without a claim to get a reduction, and another the repair cost of your vehicle went up. I'm sure there are a trillion factors, but checking your old bills should tell you (likely available through state farms website)

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago

because they can do whatever the fuck they want lol. it doesn’t matter what justification they have, it’s made up.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Also, it's increasing while the value of your car is decreasing. In Texas we used to be able to insure a car for a maximum amount. I could keep full coverage on my kids cars with a $10k max and it was only slightly higher than justhaving liability. Texas has taken away that option.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yes but I'm wondering why my last payment DECREASED 🤔

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I've seen my rates decrease automatically when a driver on the insurance reaches a particular age. Usually there's a notice sent.

[–] Today@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Sometimes there's s discount if you go a certain number of months/years without a ticket or accident.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Based on your stats: age, gender, income, education, location, etc etc, you are bundled up with others who share many of those same stats. They average the costs over time that these groups accrue over a period of time + a generous buffer + profit margin in order to come to what they charge you.

You may be moving into different groups or those costs for the group you're placed in has changed. Thus fluctuations.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh yes thank you for explaining, perhaps the fact that I just turned 50 has bumped me into a different bracket.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

yep. accident rates for older drives go way down. and then up again once you are 60+

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody reads the sidebar...

[–] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Did I violate a sidebar rule?