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(Screenshot of a social media post, user posting an image of Jar Jar Binks with a speech bubble for the post replied to. Post is from a Dutch politician stating "We hebben een serieus probleem met de politieke ontwikkelingen mbt de dwangwet en ik hoop dat dat de komende dagen kan worden opgelost. ")

Also, who can forget this favorite

(Screenshot of a translator app.
English: spank me daddy.
Dutch: geef me een klap papa)

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 47 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'm Deutsch and to me Dutch sounds really funny. Even a harmless word like "ontwikkelingen". Not to speak of "Grachten" (said correctly), Pindakaas and Poffertjes. Lekker! I wonder if the opposite applies, too.

BTW, Geert Wilders deserves all the ridicule he gets, and more.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

German sounds angry/aggressive to us.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We have the same experience with Flemish, as you have with our language, by the way.

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Flemish sounds funny?

Jullie klinken alsof je constant rochelt terwijl je praat.

Flemish is so much softer, and quite a bit of vocabulary is different, which could lead to confusing situations.

[–] sepiroth154@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I completely agree with everything else you said but you call "fucking" "shitting" and that's just hilarious.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago

eventjes lekker poepen!

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Except we don't. There's a very distinct length in the "oe" sounds. Short is fucking, long is pooping. It's like the difference between "e" and "ee".

Try to pronounce it with these e sounds, then replace them with the oe sounds. That's the difference.

[–] jackr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

I disagree. This is a common stereotype, but if you actually listen to Germans talk it feels quite a bit softer

I lived in The Netherlands in 08-10 with my German boyfriend at the time and this just make me giggle because I completely understand this all these years later lol

[–] HeavenlySpoon@ttrpg.network 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can’t speak for the Netherlands, but here in Belgium the first thing anyone thinks of when you speak German is the war. I know I’m not supposed to mention it…

That being said, German usually sounds like angry Dutch to us, so I guess we both agree on where we are on the funny-angry spectrum.

Also, most of your examples are more common in the Netherlands, which are definitely further along the funny axis.

[–] JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

But here in Belgium…

Forgive my ignorance, isn’t there a large portion of your countrymen that speak German as one of their primary languages?

[–] HeavenlySpoon@ttrpg.network 12 points 4 days ago

It’s a small part on the German border which we got as compensation for WWI. It has a population of roughly 80.000 people, less than 1% of the Belgian population. The two main languages are Dutch (60ish %) and French (40ish %), but German is technically a national language.

I suspect that people in Flanders encounter way more Germans than German-speaking Belgians.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Moet jij nodig zeggen.

BTW, Geert Wilders deserves all the ridicule he gets, and more.

Totally agree. Even for a fascist he's a fucking joke.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 30 points 4 days ago

Dutch = Gungan

I'll never see it any different from now on

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This guy has been doing stupid hair and spewing far right bullshit for longer than trump.

Pretty sure he didn’t blow bubba though.

[–] Saryn@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Didn't blow Bubba so far

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Because Dutch and English are both Germanic languages "forcibly wooed" by the Pepe Le Pews

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a Norwegian, I understood all but one word.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Was it "dwangwet"? That's the one word I didn't understand. (Except for maybe mbt which I think is a misspelling of the Dutch term for "with")

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That was the one. I read the mbt as a similar acronym as in Norwegian, mtp, meaning 'in regards to'.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Ah, you're right. According to a random Dutch website it's short for "met betrekking tot".

Though to be fair, the matching German abbreviation is "bzgl." because why use three words when you can just say "regarding".

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

While "met betrekking tot" is pretty archaic in and of itself, the shorter "betreffende" sounds even more archaic. I think a more commonly used word in daily speech would be "over".

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Word for word, 'met betrekking tot' is directly something like 'med betraktning for' = 'with consideration towards' in modern language, while the modern Norwegian version of the same is 'med tanke på' = 'with thought on'.

Meaning the same, but the old one sounds archaic, from the time when Norwegian had formal and informal language, like most languages still has, but that somehow disappeared gradually after the war, to the degree that we now often sound rude.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The abbreviation written out, my translation would have been word for word, and not guesswork. I know Dutch and Norwegian are very similar grammatically, so I'd assume it is the same in that using just the word for 'regarding' would just not make any grammatical sense, hence why we have the acronym. Simplification without simplifying anything, now that is efficient simplicity.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ah, that's nice to know. Also I finally figured out what "dwangwet" means because for some reason this Reddit post is the top result:

https://old.reddit.com/r/NonPoliticalTwitter/comments/19amlup/dutch_cant_be_a_real_language/

The top comment does seem very slightly familiar. Even the use of brackets wtf

English and Dutch are cousin languages who are relatively close by Germanic standards, though if you want a real mind fuck listen to or read Frisian. Also the old Runic alphabet for the Lowlands and England are called anglo-frisian runes.

[–] hexdream@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

South African here. I got about half,but my Afrikaans (derived from dutch) is not great. )

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

The difference between grammatical and literal translations is always so funny. Here, let me explain:

Dutch: geef me een klap papa

Norwegian literal: gi meg en klapp, pappa

Nor to English literal: give me a clap, dad

Norwegian situational; smekk meg, far 😏

Nor to English literal: smack me, father 😏

[–] U7826391786239@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

i read somewhere that if you only speak english and want to learn another language, then dutch would be the easiest--makes sense now

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I was told dutch is one of the hardest languages to learn. Lots of meaningless words are often used to pad a sentence which in essence can be left out.

Zou het misschien een beetje mogelijk zijn om iets te doen?

Zou het mogelijk zijn om iets te doen?

Same thing

Was made aware of this by a dutch teacher and never looked the same at how we construct sentences. The words are added for a perceived kindness, but confuse non native speakers.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Seems like bullshit. If they don't have much meaning, you can essentially ignore them. No way that's harder than learning Chinese or most other non-European languages for native English speakers.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have heard before that, regardless of pronunciation, not using such pointless words really makes a foreign speaker stand out.
Yeah, you can convey yourself just fine, but it is noticeable.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most foreign speakers stand out regardless, it's extremely difficult to speak a foreign language so well that native speakers won't notice.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Oh, no. Certainly. It's just interesting to me that it's those "inefficiencies" which make the language sound so much more natural, regardless of accent/pronunciation.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The easiest would probably be Frisian. Not that useful, though. Though learning Dutch isn't that useful, either, if you already speak English - most people in the Netherlands can speak English, and they have a lot more practice with it than someone who starts learning Dutch on a whim.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It would be necessary if you wanted a job in the Netherlands, no?

[–] bigchungus@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 days ago

If you're working retail or something else that has you face the general public, then yes. If you work a fancier job, then the Dutch people will just speak English with you.

[–] Shaper@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Give me a clap Pappa!

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Wait. How are the Dutch not Gungan again?

[–] dalekcaan@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

More importantly, Geert Wilders is not a serious person.