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The average American now holds onto their smartphone for 29 months, according to a recent survey by Reviews.org, and that cycle is getting longer. The average was around 22 months in 2016.

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[–] varmint@hexbear.net 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Dog holding tennis ball comic meme

  • Please consume
  • No money, only consume
[–] RedSturgeon@hexbear.net 22 points 14 hours ago

People would have been buying way less phones if we made them as good as we can and, with repairability in mind, only releasing new versions when there's substantial innovation achieved. Unfortunately we don't live in a rational world.

If you don't buy phone it hurts the graph. It stops going up. boowomp

[–] adultswim_antifa@hexbear.net 41 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Wait till they see how old and shitty my car is.

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 17 points 15 hours ago

Mine qualifies as an antique if I wasn't using it for daily commutes agony-wholesome

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not an USAmerican (thank fuck) but I'm holding onto even my shitty faulty devices to make them into other stuff rather than buy. I'm repurposing an old laptop for a media server and I'm considering repairing an old phone to turn it into a dedicated handheld console, pretty much out of spite because I know manufacturers are mad they can't get away with them lasting three months and rigging them with high explosives to prevent disassembly without their permission.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 5 points 11 hours ago

manufacturers are mad they can't get away with them lasting three months and rigging them with high explosives

although the zionists do it with pagers I guess

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 40 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

I can't believe there are people who update phones that often. My current one is closing on being six years old and it works fine. I don't know anyone who gets a phone this often apart from kids and teens who need a new one when they break.

I've had 3-4 smartphones total and have used each to their end of life. It might be the tism, but I hate changing my phone. All the setups, all the work of moving stuff to a new device sucks so much. Like why would anyone do this?

[–] towhee@hexbear.net 16 points 14 hours ago

Phones bought in the early 2010s are a much different beast than phones bought closer to 2020. Pre-2015 you could expect your phone to run out of storage and RAM after only a couple years. I recall I had some google phone which immediately auto-closed every app when it wasn't active, because of memory pressure. You couldn't even swap between one app and another to copy & paste something. Hasn't been the case since 2020, they're all basically way better than you really need now.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 12 points 14 hours ago

Yea same, I don't understand people who "need" a new phone every year. I've used every phone I've owned for at 4-5 years, the only reason I've replaced them that often is because I'm clumsy and drop them. My current phone is a cheap OnePlus I bought in 2021 and it still works great. I don't have a reason to replace it anytime soon but when I do I'm going to look at a non-smart phone replacement.

Fuck payment plans for phones. The only debt I have is student debt and I'm hoping to keep it that way

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 14 points 14 hours ago

ooooooooooooooh NOT THE ECONOMY

[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 65 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

The year is 2030 and President Newsom has just passed the bipartisan "American Communication Act", which requires all US citizens to purchase a new cell phone every year or pay a penalty of $1000.

[–] Ekranoplane@hexbear.net 37 points 17 hours ago

No you will be required to purchase device insurance through your employer. There won't be an open market option but you will get fined for not having it.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago

cash for clunkers but instead of cars its phones (and you have to specifically buy iPhone to boost apple stonk)

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 17 hours ago

That's like the scheme they tried to pull in the UK where the government was going to buy AI tokens for every citizens.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 33 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Even 29 months is too soon for a new phone in my opinion. Ideally they’d last 4 years at a minimum.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 22 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wish they were forced to make them user repairable enough to change the fucking battery and the charging port, which is what always fails first. There's zero reason for me to change this phone until it legitimately becomes unusable and zero reason for it to stop receiving security updates in a year.

[–] moss_icon@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago

I remember it came out that Apple was intentionally slowing down their older phones every year purely to try and incentivise people to buy the latest model.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 9 points 14 hours ago

The source article didn’t have this level of breakdown, but my suspicion is there’s a U-shaped data distribution here. There’s the conspicuous consumption crowd replacing their smartphone every year, then there’s most everyone else using theirs until it stops functioning properly, and thus there’s probably a large divergence between the mean and the median.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 40 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

What has the economy done for me? Fuck off, I don’t owe the economy shit.

Want that to change? Cough up some jobs like you promised to and maybe we’ll talk. Until then, fuck off. Go bother other porks, you know, people with money to spend, if you want money.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

wojak-nooo NOO YOU HAVE TO BUY THE NEWEST SHITTIEST THING YOU CANT BE HAPPY AND CONTENT WITHOUT CONSTANT WASTE AND CONSUMPTION IT WILL DESTROY THE COUNTRY

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[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Well there's no novelty in smartphone design anymore, all shaped like candy bars with multiple cameras, all the same. And the novelty that is out there (in folding screens), most consumers don't want, and Apple isn't doing it so it might as well not exist in the USA. Maybe once Apple makes a folding phone, people will start buying them.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And the novelty that is out there (in folding screens), most consumers don't want

They're double the cost of regular phones, which are already too expensive. agony-consuming

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 7 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

You know if Apple makes one, it will sell like hotcakes though. iPhone Flex™, coming to an Apple store near you!

With the Samsung folding phones, the price of the Z Flip, the one with a normal sized phone screen on the inside and a mini cover screen, the price isn't that bad by flagship smartphone standards, below 1000 USD (still extremely expensive), and you can use any app on the cover screen, which is cool for those who want a smaller phone. The Z Fold, the one that unfolds into a tablet, is ridiculous though. Price is just beyond anything remotely reasonable.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 5 points 13 hours ago

You know if Apple makes one, it will sell like hotcakes though. iPhone Flex™, coming to an Apple store near you!

yea

The problem with the Z Flip style is that often 2x as thick is a much bigger problem than being large. Clothes and bags are already made to accommodate full size phones. So I really don't see the advantage of a thicker compact phone. The Z Fold seems like a great device (huge screen, fits in pocket). Maybe at half the price.

[–] daniyeg@hexbear.net 16 points 15 hours ago

to be honest for a second, I've had my phone for over 4 years and it still works as great as the day i bought it. the battery is still over 10 hours which is good enough for me. my last phone was purchased in 2014 and it's still being used by one of my relatives (although i gotta admit it sucks). 29 months is really short especially for the US market which i imagine buys higher quality phones.

disposable income is falling off for most people and the rich people that are gaining income are not interested in buying more than one phone, and devices are already fulfilling their function perfectly well and the improvements are always marginal. why would anybody think that sales will not stagnate?

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 35 points 17 hours ago

as usual, translating "the economy" into "rich people's money" explains things

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 48 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

While it may seem to be a smart money move, it can result in a costly productivity and innovation lag for the economy.

"cmon piggies. we cant pretend profits will always go up no matter what if you dont fall for the constant upgrade cycle"

[–] towhee@hexbear.net 23 points 18 hours ago

how the fuck would a new vs. five year old phone help "productivity" when phones themselves are probably the biggest attention suck/productivity drag in existence

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Millenials are killing...devices?

[–] crazycraw@crazypeople.online 36 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

we've had multi core, multi gig ram devices always connected to mother internet for over a decade. there hasn't been anything other than iterative progress, but other than phasing out 3g and some OS versions, what was the reason to upgrade the last 2 or 3 devices ?

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 29 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

In a lot of cases they're getting actively worse and more annoying with each cycle. Multiple brands locked their bootloaders this last one, and not one which was previously locked now allows unlocking.

I'm on a pixel 6 with graphene. For everything I do it's great. I get 2-3 days on a charge listening to podcasts/music all day every day. No noticeable slowness. Aside from the camera being bad (and not having an aux or SD card slot, but newer phones don't have them either) I have no complaints . Why would I "upgrade"?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 15 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Hell, most new phones are a downgrade in some regards. Headphone jacks are included grudgingly at best, and every new phome is so large and heavy I develop an RSI using it.

I've tried multiple times to get a new phone and they all fucking suck for what I wanna do

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 26 points 18 hours ago

The new chips are optimized for AI! Hey! Where are you going?!

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[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 13 points 15 hours ago

I actually bought a new phone a year after my last one...because it got put through the washer and wouldn't work at all.

Otherwise I see no reason why my Pixel running grapheneOS can't do what I need for the duration of my life and don't really care to update. I don't feel any excitement in getting a brand new smartphone these days anyways

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 15 points 16 hours ago

i’m holding onto my phone for longer because i’m spending more time sitting on the freakin toilet! grillman

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 29 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I've had my phone more than 5 years now. Maybe 6

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 29 points 18 hours ago

stalin-sandvich Cry some more!!!

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

porky-scared-flipped "noo you are supposed to only use a phone for 2 years instead of 3, think of the economy"

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Lol. Two years? Your corporate overlords expect you to buy a new phone at least once a year!

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 17 points 18 hours ago

"Why won't you upgradddeeeee? Our newest version of your device has all the same specs, but the screen is 1.2 square inches larger and we removed all the ports from it ᵃˡˢᵒ ᶦᵗ ᶜᵒˢᵗˢ ¹⁵⁰⁰ ᵈᵒˡˡᵃʳˢ "

[–] SovietyWoomy@hexbear.net 17 points 17 hours ago

Phone upgrades haven't been meaningful for several years, especially with newer phones removing features like headphone jacks and micro sd slots. Meanwhile prices have been skyrocketing while discretionary income plummets.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 14 points 17 hours ago

My phone is from 2015 and the only reason i need a new one is fucking app devs constantly update shit and woops now i can't use my banking app or the app to clock in at work and it's slower every fucking year

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 15 points 17 hours ago

I'm still using a phone released in 2017.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It is your fault that you are poor because you aren't saving money!

Also, people are saving money and not constantly buying new phones, this is a huge problem for the economy!

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 18 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

rookie numbers, 3 years+battery swap+another 3 years soviet-huff

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[–] bigpharmasutra@hexbear.net 10 points 16 hours ago

I was honestly surprised at how much traction this got on Reddit. Many of the people going off in the comments.

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