this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2025
323 points (98.8% liked)

News

33960 readers
2319 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

The White House is planning to use the Epstein files against Democrats after they, in addition to several Republicans, successfully pressured lawmakers to vote to compel the Justice Department to release the remainder of the files against Donald Trump’s wishes.

After both chambers of Congress agreed to send the Epstein Files Transparency Act to Trump’s desk, two unnamed White House officials indicated to Politico that they plan to draw attention to Democrats who communicated with or were associated with Epstein.

“Democrats only started talking about the Epstein files once they thought they could use it to score political points against President Trump,” an unnamed White House official told Politico. “That will prove to be a mistake for them.”

top 49 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] dhork@lemmy.world 135 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But wait, I thought it was a hoax all long?

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That was to buy time for them to replace all their names with Democrats'

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

"Who's Gonald Trimp?"

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Last time I checked it was nearly unanimous with only 1 nay... Didn't realize the Dems had such power.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago

Hypocracy on display. Trump spent 4 years demanding the Democrats release the files, scoring political points on the right. Now it's projection all over again.

I'm sure there are several people in the Democratic party who were part of this. That does not matter. bad is bad. I don't care if you otherwise appear to have similar values to me.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He told them to pass the bill and is acting like he was somehow betrayed... its all for a scam that we can only guess at currently...

My money is on them removing their own names like everyone assumes...

Or find a way not to release them even after the vote.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Why he was suddenly "onboard":

He thought that the Democrats were bluffing, thinking that Trump would veto. With the threat of Trump actually passing, they would get too scared that their sacred cow Clinton getting caught up.

He might have been assured by the DOJ that the files were safe to release (now).

His demand to get investigations going again locks the files back up. An official in an interview basically said as much, that starting investigations would b block "portions of the files" regardless of this bill.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Once the MAGAs knew that it would pass, they new that their No votes would be used to bludgeon them in the 2026 Midterms, which are going to be brutal enough without that.

Despite this, they are ALL complicit in the delay of releasing these files, with plenty of rationalization on record to quote on campaign attack ads. They can still be beaten with the Epstein Files, and everything else they've fucked up.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 85 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So... he's going to use the documents, which now show only Democrat names, because they were scrubbed, to get back at the Dems for forcing the release of the scrubbed documents?

This makes zero sense. If we play along with the ruse that the documents only ever showed Democrat names, why would he be mad that the documents are being released? On the other hand, he agreed to release the obviously scrubbed documents knowing he's not implicated, and for which the Rs voted too, so why would he retaliate over that?

THIS MAKES NO SENSE!

[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

They will be entirely fabricated.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

The fact that they've held on to this info for so long, and have never officially identified anybody, tells me that there are a LOT more Republican names than Dem names. Otherwise, they would have been screaming the names from the top of the Washington Monument.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

Nothing says "I'm innocent" like "you are going to come to regret this!"

[–] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 47 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Umm, does he not realise we would also want those pedophiles in jail too?

Like sure 'every pedophile' is better, but half is a good start, we'll get the rest in due time. Stuff is constantly leaking.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republicans assume everyone else also treats their politicians like a cult. I don't think they realize how many people hold their nose and bite their tongue when voting Democrat

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Even if it is someone you actively wanted, the reaction should be to feel betrayed by then falling to love up to your standards, not to try to rationalize child sex trafficking to preserve your image of the guy.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Trump is such a dumbass.

The Democratic pedos are not going to jail without trials.

I can’t wait to hear what comes out in those.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah I look forward to it. Hopefully it purges some of the old guard that keep fucking it up.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I can see 3 possibilities.

  1. Full uncensored release of the files -highly unlikely.
  2. a heavily edited and censored version with Donny’s name taken out bluntly.
  3. A couple of pages of people’s names that the White House and Donny picked. And whatever happens afterwards I feel like Donny will start a war with Venezuela to try to keep the media from totally focusing on the Epstein files.
[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

4: Someone who doesn't like Trump releases the uncensored files, in retribution for something. If your future is ended by Trump, might as well have him hanging from the same scaffold.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1,000 FBI agents have seen them. Hundreds of victims know what's in there. Senate committees, courts. I don't think substantial modifications will be occurring anymore, it's been frozen since March when they hastily redacted Trump's name "as a private citizen"

[–] timeghost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Or one man could replace Trump's name in the documents with Gavin Newsom in black sharpie and arrest him. The truth hasn't mattered for years.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

a heavily edited and censored version with Donny’s name taken out bluntly.

I have a feeling that soon "■■■■■■ ■■■■ ■■■■■" will become a meme...

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't be beyond them to add a few entries like "Such a shame Trump always refused to come see me", among a few other silly edits.

[–] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

Scribbled in Sharpie

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also possible, some invented "Epstein files" that add people he doesn't like.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

That would be written in sharpie, and have mean girl gossip in the margins...

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
  1. Move the goalposts on "rape" and "pedophilia" because that's kinda/sorta where they've been headed this whole time. It would also get a number of conservative politicians off the hook that aren't even in the files. Basically like some kind of perverted Overton Window.
[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What's he going to do? Rape more children?

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

Id say yes but he's currently the monitored man on the planet which is saying something.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

The thing is....Democratic voters are ok with taking down ANYONE, including Democrats, who raped children. We're not like the Trumpist Bootlicker Cult who excuse the Glorious Orange Leader's child rape. String them all up. Bring on the new candidates.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You know who else will regret this? Republicans. Your move 5d chess donnie.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republicans will be redacted

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So? They need to do trials to get any Democrats in jail, discovery will be wild.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

You have far more faith in the US justice system than I do.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I already regret everything about this.

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well if somehow Bill is in there then it confirms that Bubba is Bill and that President Cocksucker blew him.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But if the horse is on there...

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Of course! Of course!

[–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Didn't damn near everyone vote yes on it?

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A few months ago, every single Republican voted no, every single one, and now all but one voted yes. Its amazing how the entire Congress will line up to protect a child molester ring. Kind of makes you wonder what they are up to now? They have had the evidence in their possession for a year to tamper with it.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure the administration suddenly removing federal whistle lower protections has NOTHING to do with fear of the people who had access to the real files.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 month ago

Obviously they don't want people to release the files that they removed.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

See, shit like this makes me think that the White House didn't really have a coherent plan for the Epstein files after all, like they're trying to make us think, and like the right and left talking heads alike have been warning us. If they did, they'd realize that we want to know if Democrats are in the files, so that we can get them the fuck out of our government, same as any Republicans in those files, and same as Trump.

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

Fucking try it cock sucking little piggy. I vow to provide shelter and hide any US rep, or senator that voted yes to releasing the files, no matter which party they are with.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Even just that the word "retribution" is used here shows whatever he does should be illegal.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Democrats are going to come

He's going to blow them away!

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Dumbass Don and his stupid threats

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Its so funny because we know already Musk's brother, Bannon, and Clinton are in the files.

Just statistically the dems are like 42% women so its more likely than not this is mostly nonsense. What this likely means is wealthy democrat donors are implicated and imo: fuck them

[–] maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

We didn’t worry about the Epstein files because our president didn’t have anything to gain by burying the files deeper for his participation in the guys murder.