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My wife and I are currently driving cross country (US), and earlier in the day we stopped at a Pilot gas station in Tennessee.

I exited the vehicle, tapped my card on the thing to authorize my card and pay, got about 30 bucks of gas, then went inside and paid for a drink and snacks with a different card.

300 miles later, we stop at another gas station and while we do we check our cards and notice a 150 dollar charge on the same card used for gas at that exact Pilot. Strangely the 30 dollar charge for the gas was there too. We immediately call our credit card company and they say its a pending charge and cannot do anything about it until its went through, so we pause the card.

I call the gas station itself and spoke to a manager, and was told its an authorization charge and will go away. 150 dollars is a crazy amount for an authorization charge and makes little sense to me, has anyone ever experienced this before? Is it normal?

(Meta: I didn't know where else to put this, but wanted to ask my fellow Lemmites, is that okay?)

Update: The charge has been removed from our account, so alls good. This is the first time I have ever seen an authorization charge so big, so it scared me, thanks to everyone for informing me on these charges, I'll know to keep my eye out in the future and not worry so much!

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 103 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

$150 is about normal these days. The pumps will usually have a little sticker somewhere that list the authorization hold amounts.

Fun fact: The auth holds used to be $1 way back in the day. But when prepaid debit cards came around, people could have a balance of $1 on them, get $50 worth of gas, and the station wouldn't be able to charge the actual amount (it would decline for NSF with no way to recover it as with a regular debit/credit card). That's why the hold amounts are between $75 and $150.

If you want to avoid the authorization hold, you can either pay cash or pre-pay with a cashier; the latter case will charge only what you pay.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 36 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I've never actually seen the charge itself before. I sure am glad I asked here, I like seeing real answers.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, be aware that if it is debit and not credit card, it can take quite a while for the hold to come off. This isn't on the gas station, it's on how quickly your bank handles them. My bank it's around 2-3 business days, but I know some it can be up to four weeks. Granted, this is my experiences in Asia and around Europe, but wouldn't be surprised if it's the same in the US.

If you think that's the case, confirm with your bank before you using it and accidentally end up with a few hundred on your account just stuck there for a while.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't think these happen with debit in the US, but if something happens and your card gets stolen your screwed out of that money with debit usually, so we always use credit.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

if something happens and your card gets stolen your screwed out of that money with debit usually

In the USA, if you report the card missing within two days of discovering that it is missing, your liability is limited to $50.

https://consumer.ftc.gov/node/78373

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[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 12 points 5 months ago

Certainly in the UK, the £1 preauth was just a check to see if the card was valid. Once the issuer returned the thumbs up, there was no cap on what you could draw from the pump.

Either a scenario like the above would happen, or people who were running on fumes two days before payday would do this stunt - full up with sixty quid's worth of fuel - and when it bounced, would go back in on payday and be like "hey that's weird, sounds like your machines are acting up" and nobody would be any the wiser.

Now it's a near universal £99 preauth at unstaffed pumps.

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[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago

Story on this one. As a young adult I needed gas to drive to my second job a town over, maybe 12 miles. I had $75 in my account which was plenty to fill up.

When I started the process, my card was declined. I tried and failed a few times, then went inside the store and had them try there to no success. The cashier mentioned that the hold amount was set by the bank.

Hearing this I went down the road too my bank and asked them what the fuck was going on, to which they said it was normal and that my funds were locked until the transaction went through. The 0$ transaction.

I managed to scrounge up enough change and a single $5 bill I had in my wallet to buy like 2 gallons of gas which was just enough to get to work and back. Shortly thereafter I closed my account at that bank and transferred everything to a credit union I have been much happier with.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They need to make it big enough to cover folks driving F-350's or something. Idk how much they take. It was generally $75 about 5 years ago. They don't do that with credit cards. Hotels are really awful about that, too.

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[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (4 children)

$150 is the most they can, I believe. It’s normal and it fucking sucks. That being said, I have debit cards that will only authorize for the amount you use (like, I have $30 in my account, it clears, pump for $15 of gas, no residual hold). I know there’s good reasons to use a credit card on a trip, but they’re a pain for the pre-auth. It’s supposed go away in a few hours normally — maybe by the end of the day?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

The annoying thing is that the credit cards fully support authorizing for some amount likely to cover the transaction and using the same transaction to capture so no lingering auth sits around.

If a merchant has captured the funds and still has a hold sitting around the someone has implemented something wrong.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but they’re a pain for the pre-auth.

I think I've only ever had a credit card decline one me once for being outside of my normal area. What kind of cards do you have?

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I meant that credit cards specifically tend to get a preauthorization hold at gas stations, at least in my experience.

I will get declines on debit cards from my credit union if I don’t tell them I’ll be out of area within about two states. BofA has a feature where if you open their app with location on, it’ll register you as traveling in whatever area. Amex, never had a problem. Can’t speak for the others.

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[–] InvisibleShoe@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Heres me living in Aus reading these comments saying this is normal, thinking its insane. We just pull up to the bowser, wave to the cashier and start pumping petrol. People would be livid if they saw a $150 auth charge. The petrol station would be getting dragged in the news.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 6 points 5 months ago

Funny, $200 is standard in NZ if you pre pay. Can usually post pay though as you say.

Or guess how much fuel you're going to need and pre-auth a little more than that.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Lucky! I only just now learned this was normal now, but damn does it suck that it does. Im not sure why there isn't a system to authorize outside charging cards, seems backwards to me.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm from Europe and it's unheard of in my area. Although gas stations here work quite differebtly from US ones.

You drive up to the tanking machine. You take the gun and start tanking. No credit card terminal, no nothing on it. Just a display of liters pumped and amount owed.

When you finish, you enter the station, say the tanking plot number and pay that exact amount.

If you run off... I guess they call the police?

I've never had it happen to me, but if you were out of cash and all the cards you had failed for some reason you'd merely exchange contact info and pay in a few days via bank transfer, CC, cash or whatever.

If you don't, you'll get a court order within a year to pay the amount + some interest + court fees. That's enough of an incentive for people to pay, I guess.

If you just tank up and leave, you could get booked for theft. Most places have cameras and cars have licence plates, so finding the offender is quite simple.

Therefore, no preauth.

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you're in the states just use a credit card. Hold is out there but as long as you aren't going towards your limit then it's fine and ignorable. Just pay it off every month and it'll build your credit too. I don't even carry a debit card with me anymore.

[–] JabbaTheThott@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'd argue carrying cash or a debit is important for small businesses and things like the farmers market to save them from credit card fees. Otherwise I completely agree with you; everything goes on the credit

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[–] L7HM77@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's got something to do with max fund preallocation / preauthorization. This is normal for gas stations, supposedly it keeps card thieves from armada fueling and leaving the station holding a grand of irrecoverable debt. Some banks won't show these background transactions, some only show one dollar, some show the full amount. The exact specifics you're shown vary between banks and stations, but it is normal and happens all the time.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 11 points 5 months ago

My understanding about this and if I remember correctly they charged the maximum amount that the pump will let you pump so if the pump will let you pump 50 gallons they authorize the dollar amount for that amount of gas.

After that they charge the amount of gas that you actually get and delete the first charge. Normally this happens fast enough that you don't ever see it on your account. If you were in the middle of nowhere though, they might have been using tile up for their credit card system and that could delay things.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Gas station or truck stop? If the latter, it isn't that shocking that they might lazily use the same authorization charge amount for cars as they do for 18-wheelers.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yeah it was a truck stop, seems to be the case.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 3 points 5 months ago

Filling up an 18 wheeler can cost $1000. I don’t think the truck stops are using our piddly $150 car-side gas pump limits for the diesel pumps on the truck side.

Filling up my gas motor home at regular car gas station pumps all over, I find that Truck stops, big chain gas stations, little podunk gas stains in the middle of nowhere all use limits from $100-$200, which is not enough for me to fill up. My guess is that number used to be “safely big enough to fill up anything” and they haven’t adjusted it as the gas prices went up.

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The best selling vehicle model in America is the Ford F-150, with gas tank sizes mostly above 30 gallons (exact size depends on model/options). The second best selling vehicle is the Chevy Silverado, whose gas tank is between 24-28 gallons.

At $3/gallon, that's between $75 and $90 for the typical fill up.

For some vehicles (really large SUVs, premium SUVs that take premium grade gas), I can see $200+ tanks at certain gas prices we've seen in our recent past.

So it makes sense for a gas station to do a pre authorization for $100, maybe $150.

The other thing, too, though, is that the hold/pre-auth doesn't matter if it's a credit card that you just pay at the end of the month. It gets sorted out before your statement balance gets billed to you. It can get annoying if you're using a debit card and your balance is low, but this is just another way that credit cards tend to be better than debit cards if you can handle the responsibility.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago

Pilot is a big truck station. I expect it isn't unusual for customers to buy $900 worth of diesel in a single fillup.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Its just quite a scary thing to see when you've never seen it before. My wife and I do this trip 2-3 times a year, several days of driving to and fro, yet only just now saw it, so it scared us.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 8 points 5 months ago

I'll usually see $100, but $150 isn't insane, especially at a truck stop. It's just pending, because they don't actualy process the charge until they close the books later, at which time the actual amount is cross-referenced with the pending amount, the pending amount is canceled, and the actual amount is charged.

tl;dr: Don't worry about it.

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

$150 sounds about normal. I put gas into a motor home with an 85 gallon tank. Generally the pumps will cut off once or even twice before the tank is full — sometimes at $100, sometimes at $125, sometimes at $150

They don’t actually charge the extra, so once get over the initial shock of thinking you got stolen from, this is not a real problem (unless you’re running your card right up to the ragged edge of your credit limit.)

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prepay inside and you'll never have this issue. You get to chat with a bored cashier as well.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just never know how much to get exactly is all.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

If you pay with a card inside, just ask for a full tank or round up to whatever you know the vehicle will fit. Everywhere I've visited refunds the remainder automatically to your card without you going back in. Generally, at least in my area any refund is done almost immediately too but you could ask the cashier if you're concerned about the specifics.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

$100-150 is typical for a gas station holding charge. In my experience, they only do this for credit cards, but not debit cards and also doesn't get overcharged like that if you pay inside, but it also depends on the station.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago (9 children)

150 dollars is a crazy amount for an authorization charge and makes little sense to me

You obviously don't drive a V8 pickup. Some have tanks as big as 48 gallons.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Yikes. Big trucks aren't my cup of tea so yeah, I don't.

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[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 6 points 5 months ago

Pretty normal, seems nuts for a normal vehicle but they're likely using a number for if someone pulls up in a motorhome with a 50 gallon tank. Cards have a max they can do in one shot at the pump around that level as well.

[–] shai_hulud@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

it's a pre-auth charge. I've seen $175. It comes off after a bit. Sometimes in a few minutes, sometimes in a few hours. These gas stations will put up signs saying it's your bank, but that's BS. It's the station's acceptance or whatever.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

It's just a thing, some will have a posted notice they do it, some just do it.

You can try to keep track of which ones do it, but if the hold is a concern the easiest way is to pay before pumping.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 5 points 5 months ago

normally I still see $75 but in some areas around me known for gas guzzlers I do see $150 for the pre-auth. It almost always clears by the next morning but I've seen it take up to 3 days before during road trips (I suspect because I almost never travel it gets flagged for internal manual review but no real idea)

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As explained to me, the hold is there to make sure you have enough in the account. Once the charge goes through with the actual amount the hold should go away so you don't have both at the same time.

I see people saying this is normal but I have never seen both the hold and the charge at the same time.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'll just mention pilot, flying J, loves, the bigger interstate travel center stations tend to hold larger amounts because their systems cover for semi trucks filling up. I never had a hold that large from a neighborhood gas station.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I’ve seen $250 preauth, I’ve seen $500+ fills too.

But there’s different ways to pre auth. The normal way I see it is that you authorize up to $XX and the CC company approves/denies it, and then you pump what you need up to that amount. That it’s got a hold on the card afterwards is I think an older way back from when they’d have signatures on everything and it’s anachronistic with tap. I remember that would show up back in the ‘00s sometimes in the USA.

[–] Kertyna@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago

It's €250 where I live. Never thought anything of it actually. I guess I don't really mind

[–] BallShapedMan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The race track I take my car to on occasion puts a $600 hold whenever you buy gas on site. And there is a sticker I didn't see until after my bank called me asking if I was crazy buying $600 worth of gas.

Bananas!

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