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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

advocating for israel - 14

advocating for palestine - 21

So what? The perfect dem candidate is a cruzader larper? A Neo-Ottomanism?

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

The perfect dem candidate is not-listening

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 16 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Okay, so being a union member is good(+1), but organizing union strikes is bad(-2)!? So what are unions supposed to do then? Just keeping up appearances of opposition to pacify dissent while actually maintaining the status quo?

Democrat candidate

Ohhhh, that makes sense then, carry on I guess.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 7 hours ago

served in thie Biden administration (-6)

They hate being reminded that none of this shit works

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 54 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Evidently, among Democrats, the only thing that scores worse than "advocating for Palestine" is "advocating for Israel"

I guess the takeaway is "we don't want to hear about sad things for which our government is directly culpable"?

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 17 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"breaking up monopolies" still polls negative when you exclude the chuds? We're gonna have Disney and Google opening company towns and offering script before we have even a lukewarm Teddy Roosevelt type on the ballot, aren't we.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

pog-fish Sonic the Hedgehog announced in the next Marvel movie!

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, so the other sheet is for overall voters. I guess then republicans hate lgbtq people way more than socialists? Hence why lgbtq advocates score a lot lower than socialists on the main election.

But it's absolutely crazy to me that even amongst Democrats lgbtq advocates score negative, even 1 point lower than socialists!

The fact that socialism more popular than lgbtq rights is ... an interesting result.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 9 points 5 hours ago

It might be an example of a Keynesian beauty contest in that the typical democratic voter saw all the chatter around Trump's anti-LGBTQ ads in the general and are assuming that candidates that go too hard toward inclusion stand less of a chance with the mythical moderates.

Or they might just not care.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 6 hours ago

IMO the takeaway isn't that socialism is more popular than lgbtq rights, the takeaway is that more people are polarized against lgbtq rights than socialism.

[–] LeninWalksTheEarth@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

is that maybe showing more of a split in the party? there are other polls that have shown Democrats are way more favorable towards Palestinian people(not so much the Palestinian or Isntreal governments though) link

I'm also slightly skeptical of this data. It's kinda hilarious the more i look. Forgive student loans? Democrats disapprove. Secure the border? Also disapprove. Giving me whiplash. Protecting abortion rights is 0 for democrats? Maybe i just dont understand how this survey works.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 5 points 5 hours ago

I've read a couple blurbs about conjoint analysis and I am not yet totally clear on how it works, but the general idea is to provide different products (or in this case candidates) and ask respondents to rank them. So one might have compared a veteran former Obama staffer who wants to get rid of the tariffs vs a farmer that created private sector jobs who wants to make food more affordable (etc), and the scores come out of a bunch of rankings.

I speculated up thread that the poll respondents might be ranking the candidates more on what they believe the general public wants or who will most likely win an election regardless of personal preferences (which feels like a hazard in accurate interpretation and it depends on the exact question wording), or they might've just had a sample that skewed older (as Chana observed).

[–] Chana@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago

You can make a poll say anything based on who you decide to sample. I suspect they polled a lot of old people.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 25 points 9 hours ago

jokermala I'm talking over here!

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 42 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The democrats are the most committed people in history in their quest to learn every wrong lesson and produce every worst take. It's truly remarkable the talent, skill, dedication and drive the democrats pour into that purpose, and the tremendous level of their success in doing so. Never in history has a group of people been so wrong

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 35 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Making child care more affordable... Who has a negative opinion of this? How?

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago

Private equity firms that own lots of childcare facilities

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 46 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

fighter against the republican party: -5

What is this even based on? There is no fucking way that fighting against republicans and advocating for lgbtq rights would be seen as worse by Democrat voters than being a socialist.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 42 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I refuse to believe that a party of liberals would rather tolerate a socialist over someone who is pro-lgbtq.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 26 points 9 hours ago

They probably think they're socialists lenin-dont-laugh

Also as the saying goes everyone is 12, and when they were twelve-years-old they were using homophobia as every-day insults and degrade their political opposition with homophobic insults.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 46 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

An admin posting slop in main without saying main

Are we to be ruled by petty tyrants unconstrained by even the appearance of justice?

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 37 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Posting in main: -3
Posting in main without saying main: -4
Not posting in main: -6
Not posting: -7
Posting: -38

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

There's a moratorium on needing to say main, so we should all return to the old days where everyone posted everything on main.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 21 points 9 hours ago

Hey good idea

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Keld@hexbear.net 21 points 10 hours ago

No hexbearian will post free until the last admin is ~~strangled~~ banned with the ~~entrails~~ account of the last mod

[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 58 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

under the age of 50: +2

over the age of 50: +2

[–] context@hexbear.net 22 points 10 hours ago

entities that exist outside of human concepts of time and aging poll very poorly with potential voters

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 51 points 11 hours ago

age 50: -25

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 53 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Also turn this into a table you can roll d6s on and you have a nice character background chart.

Im playing on hard mode, Billionaire Socialist Podcaster.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 32 points 11 hours ago

Virgil? Is that you?

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago

This is my 5-year plan. Looks like the Dems won't be happy about it.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 39 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Lol so mamdani has what, -30 points out the gate?

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 38 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (2 children)

Mamdani is what? Edit: Also remember it's from the POV of a Democrat (voter).

Bio Fact
under the age of 50 +2
an elected official +1
a child of immigrants -5
a socialist -11
Record
are committed to upending the status quo -1
Issue Focus
bringing down the prices of food, goods, and services +20
making housing more affordable +10
raising taxes on the rich and corporations +1
making childcare more affordable -1
building more transit infrastructure -3
protecting the rights of the LGBTQ community -17
advocating for Palestinians -21
Total -25

ⓘ 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘤𝘢𝘵. 𝘗𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘳.

[–] Pisha@hexbear.net 36 points 11 hours ago

There's another -17 for protecting LGBTQ rights lmao

[–] SerialExperimentsGay@hexbear.net 30 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

wait til you get to the issue focus section

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 29 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Ah you just tempted that cat to make a full spreadsheet

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Alaskaball spreadsheet

Bio Fact
Over/under 50 +2
a socialist -11
Record
are guided by their commitment to science, evidence, and facts +7
are a political outsider fighting against the Democratic Party establishment +2
scare billionaires and corporations +1
know how to use social media to communicate 0
are committed to upending the status quo -1
have not spent their entire career in politics -1
are good at getting attention -3
are a fighter against the Republican Party -5
Issue Focus
bringing down the prices of food, goods, and services +20
making healthcare and prescription drugs more affordable +16
making housing more affordable +10
fighting corruption in politics +10
implementing Universal Healthcare +6
keeping the United States out of foreign wars +3
protecting Americans from harmful consequences from technology -1
making childcare more affordable -1
fighting race-and sex-based discrimination -2
fighting Trump's authoritarianism -3
getting rid of the Trump tariffs -3
building more transit infrastructure -3
stopping ICE from detaining citizens and law-abiding residents -4
protecting abortion rights -6
combatting the climate crisis -6
protecting the rights of the LGBTQ community -17
advocating for Palestinians -21
Total -11

Do tell me if I missed something. Also not too bad, you might have a shot.


ⓘ 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘤𝘢𝘵. 𝘗𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘳.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

Over/under 50

two-wolves-1 kitty-birthday-sad two-wolves-2

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 12 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I haven't kept an eye on him so I'm not certain which things actually fit.


ⓘ 𝘛𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘳 𝘪𝘴 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘦𝘤𝘵𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘧 𝘣𝘦𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢 𝘤𝘢𝘵. 𝘗𝘭𝘦𝘢𝘴𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘱𝘰𝘳𝘵 𝘢𝘯𝘺 𝘴𝘶𝘴𝘱𝘪𝘤𝘪𝘰𝘶𝘴 𝘣𝘦𝘩𝘢𝘷𝘪𝘰𝘳.

[–] SmithrunHills@hexbear.net 28 points 11 hours ago

JFC this gets worse the more I look at it xi-plz

[–] Civility@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago
[–] deforestgump@hexbear.net 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Oh we're doing eugenics again?