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submitted 11 months ago by spaceghoti@lemmy.one to c/politics@lemmy.world

His [Trump's] legal team's submission states that, between the classified information on foreign interference and biased intelligence reports, "this evidence will undercut central theories of the prosecution and establish that President Trump acted at all times in good faith and on the belief that he was doing what he had been elected to do."

The submission notes that Smith has argued in legal submissions earlier in October that "the classified discovery issues" in this case are "limited," "tangential," "narrow" and "incidental" because "the charges ... do not rely on classified materials."

In his submissions, Smith references the 2020 Russian case several times as an example of why the U.S. government must be guarded in handing over classified documents to defense lawyers.

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[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago

This is not in good faith or remotely reasonable. In the alternative universe where Trump really was cheated and could prove it AND he could prove he knew it it wouldn't be a defense. You can't legally try to "fix" an election one way because it's "fixed" the other way. If the law be followed all involved go to jail.

There is no legal reason to provide documents that would endanger national security AND wouldn't provide a valid defense.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

So…. His defense is fake his death in an airplane crash and run?

[-] spaceghoti@lemmy.one 36 points 11 months ago

Honestly, at this point I'd be willing to let him run if it meant he stayed out of the Oval Office. He deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison, but I can't discount the possibility that the American voters will be stupid enough to let him back into power.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I'm willing to let him play dead simply because the dead don't talk.

[-] BeanGoblin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 months ago

Which is why he won't do it, he is physically incapable of shutting the fuck up.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

I can just imagine him trying this.

Trump's lawyers appear in court: "We're saddened to announce that our client passed away last night. He died peacefully in his sleep and..."

Bing

Prosecutor: "Um, your honor? The 'late' Donald Trump just posted on Truth Social. 'I'm very much alive and in much better shape than crooked Joe Biden. My lawyers are going to argue that I'm dead to stop this WITCH HUNT and ensure that we can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!'"

Trump's lawyers: "That was likely a pre-scheduled post."

Prosecutor (continuing to read): "This is not a pre-scheduled post."

Trump's lawyers: "President Trump wouldn't fake his death just to avoid charges. That's not who he is."

Prosecutor (continuing to read): "I would ABSOLUTELY fake my own death to avoid charges. This is exactly who I am."

(And, yes, I channeled a certain Austin Powers scene when imagining this.)

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 7 points 11 months ago

...One receipt for a Swedish made death certificate...

[-] frustratedphagocytosis@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Cut his tongue and thumbs off first

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

he'll fuck that up, though. just as soon as people say mean things about him.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

"We can flush him out of hiding. Send out a bulletin about his tiny hands."

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

“And if that doesn’t work, we’ll sell counterfeit toupees purporting to be stolen from his wardrobe,”

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 7 points 11 months ago

I wonder where he'd go. My bet is UAE. Russia seems like the likely choice, but he has done a lot of dealing with UAE, and they'd probably let him live in opulence.

[-] Uglyhead@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He has a whole city specifically build for him in Russia. All of his acolytes can move there and form their USA Best Far Right Qult45 Fun Town.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

I forgot about that place! I think he'd rather go to prison than live with his followers.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Let him fuck off to Russia while ukrops wiggle their way into position and give him the welcoming of a lifetime

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago

"... President Trump acted at all times in good faith..." - I'm pretty certain that the GOP in general, and #45 in particular never act in good faith.

[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

When you are rich they let you do it.

What do you mean?! Donald would never use power for selfish means.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He's gonna lose this one, too. Their main objection is that the evidence being referenced isn't what Trump is being charged for, to which Jack Smith is like, "Duh, we know." It's meant to illustrate Trump's character, and that's why it's not necessary to Jack's case or necessary to share the specific documents with Trump's lawyers via discovery (something they've been trying to get their hands on, unsuccessfully). The content doesn't matter. That they exist does.

This is a DOA motion, brought to you by the "best" lawyers Trump could find.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

classified discovery issues

Admitting to other crimes as a legal defense... Bold move, cotton. Let's see how that goes.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


At the time, the Justice Department dropped the charges rather than hand over the highly classified documents to the Russians' defense team, citing "a risk of exposure of law enforcement's tools and techniques."

Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith and his team filed a classified response on Friday opposing Trump's attempts to obtain the documents.

Smith team member Thomas P. Windom notified Chutkan on Friday that prosecutors have submitted their motion to block Trump's request to a classified information security officer, who then stores it until the judge is ready to review it.

His legal team's submission states that, between the classified information on foreign interference and biased intelligence reports, "this evidence will undercut central theories of the prosecution and establish that President Trump acted at all times in good faith and on the belief that he was doing what he had been elected to do."

They were partially owned by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the late St. Petersburg businessman and founder of the Wagner mercenary group, then one of Russian President Vladimir Putin's closest allies.

The indictment detailed activities of an operation called the Internet Research Agency, in which Russians in a St. Petersburg office building were accused of impersonating Americans on social media in an attempt to disrupt the 2016 presidential election between Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton.


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[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I’m pretty sure that Trump’s and his henchmen’s have an attorney that has clearance.

They should be able to show the documents to that attorney without much risk.

I realize that Judge Cannon is going to decide that the government must either give up the lives of US spys or set Trump free because she is a fucking traitor.

But there are other options.

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