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Despite his "no" vote, the Senate deal to reopen the government bears Schumer’s fingerprints

Either Schumer no longer has effective control over own his caucus, or he has permitted the deal to progress with a wink and a nod behind the scenes — and with a strident disavowal for the bank of cameras he famously loves — while taking Democratic voters for fools.

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[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Here is my bipartisan compromise and before you say anything and call me a centrist, hear me out:

Schumer and McConnel BOTH tied together and in cement shoes at the bottom of a deep sewage pond.

I know neither side gets much out of it at a glance but think of the implications and ROI.

[–] oppy1984 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We could pay down a significant amount of the national debt just with ticket and PPV sales.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

McConnell is a Republican and any Republican is worse than any Democrat, but as far as Republicans go he voted against the most Trump cabinet picks.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That doesn't undo the other 40 years of his time in gov. He has been instrumental in damning this country.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well yes, like I said, any democrat would be better.

[–] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

McConnell was instrumental in putting Trump into office and letting him get away with Jan 6. No one should let him off the hook for all the damage he’s done.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

As would any Republican piece of shit, which is why I wish him luck in his primaries.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Huh, I wonder which Democratic member of the House or Senate said that

For Roginsky, a self-described establishment Democrat

Who?

Julie Roginsky, a longtime Democratic strategist, television commentator and author of the Salty Politics online newsletter.

Again, I agree Schumer should be replaced, but not in a heated coup that shakes up the Epstein investigation just in time for House Democrats to finally have enough votes to release the files.

I find it so very, very odd, that other than Ro Kahnna, there seem to be no House or Senate Democrats jumping on this bandwagon (including the actual progressives members who aren't owned by Peter Thiel).

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The entire DNC needs to go

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And what should take its place?

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Replacing First-past-the-post voting will allow yhe democrats to run alongside other 3rd parties without a spoiler effect.

Electoral Reform Videos

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

I would never want blue conservatives to be unable to vote how they want. I would never want to do what they do to us.

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Just fill it in with AI.

/s to be clear, but also not an unlikely solution if people keep falling for this propaganda

Peter Thiel’s plan to become CEO of America

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

It's just a structurally bad system. Disband parties, change the voting system to one that doesn't create a "vote against the other thing" dynamic (I like STAR voting) and fix campaign finance once and for all - the solutions exist but the ones in control would never allow them.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 17 points 1 day ago

Two points:

  1. No one was calling for Chuck to go when he approved the previous budget without a fight. This is not because he folded but because he dared to fight. He will be replaced with someone who will never try to fight Trump

  2. The 8 Democrats that voted for this are not some traitors to the party. Republicans needed 8 votes so Dems gave them 8 votes. If they needed 20 votes they would find 20 Dems to vote with them. They chose the ones that are ready to retire or have no chances at re-election but if needed they would just go down the list and find more people. If you think Dems have a problem with 8 members you're delusional. Both parties have the same owners and the same goals. Don't get fooled by the theater.

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I'm sure he'll write a strong letter

[–] Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk 109 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Democrats are honestly a bunch of fucking pussies at this point.

There's a literal fascist authoritarian wannabe in charge and where's the resistance? Christ, MTG is being more critical of Trump than they are.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's almost as if Democrats have been controlled opposition funded by the same people trump plays golf with.

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not cowardice, its calculated evil.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Democrats are controlled opposition, or they act exactly as controlled opposition would act.

We need to start judging them based on their actions and get rid of them at every chance possible.

[–] radieschen@slrpnk.net 50 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Resistance should be grassroots organized, please don't rely on the Democrats (or any political party) for that.

Don't waste any time mourning. Organize!

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why not both?

We're organizing locally, and won the last set of elections. But that doesn't mean we can't still expect resistance on the national level when there was an overwhelming victory in the last slate of elections.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Anyone quoting Joe Hill is all right by me.

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[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 122 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Now, Roginsky is “thoroughly disgusted,” she said. “I don’t understand why they would subject people to hunger and to layoffs and to flight delays and to missed paychecks for the past 40 days, if only to get nothing out of it now.”

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Schumer, who was the target of near-universal vitriol among Democrats in March when he backed down in a budget battle that threatened to evolve into a shutdown, was quick to announce his opposition to the deal and he voted against it Monday night.

But in fact, his fingerprints are all over it.

Get rid of this useless piece of shit, Schumer needs to be in a nursing home.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

needs to be in a nursing home

Specifically, in the medicaid wing of a nursing home.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

An Andrew Cuomo-era nursing home.

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[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 79 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get rid of his weak Nazi appeasing ass...40 days for nothing

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 65 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's so fricking infuriating because, literally we were actually seeing the cracks form. Trump admin is violating the hatch act, pushing "dem's have shut down the government", and yet poll after poll shows the american people put the blame on the republicans. Trump was constantly boo'd to his face at the commanders game... and the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can't fathom a worse time to fold

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 21 hours ago

I can’t fathom a worse time to fold

Democrats_IRL

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

the democrats had an amazing election where they won every contest they were in. I can't fathom a worse time to fold

That's your answer right there: the moment the election was over, they went back to screwing over the voters on behalf of their owner donors.

If the election had been a week from now, they'd have caved by Thanksgiving at the latest.

Yup big daddy airplane was starting to get worried about thanksgiving.

[–] FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They saw Zohran win and decided the people had had enough fun, but it's time to put us back into our place before we get an ideas about making America better for the common person

[–] hateisreality@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The blame was on the Republicans until Schumer decided to be a Nazi

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (3 children)

His whip voted yes. Either he can't even control his whip, or he orchestrated it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He absolutely orchestrated it, the reason he is the minority leader in senate is because he has the connections and political capital to influence or even order the votes of his party. I am only somewhat curious if they knew he was going to back out and vote no to try to wash his hands of his own capitulation. It's wild because it signals he still thinks he has a future.

Schumer represents a weird kind of old-school political capital. Whereas Trump's power comes from a literal horde of orcs carrying weapons and flags, arguably an even older kind of power to wield, Schumer carries the Elder Conclave of Ancient Liberal Liches who delight in social parties and ritual and systems. If you've ever listened to the old-guard dems talking among each other it sounds like a Victorian-era socialite gathering, like aliens from another dimension. While wildly out-of-touch, the reason he has power is because this kind of thing appeals to older institutional bankers, elder community leaders, and people with old money.

Old money is the reason he still stands as the "head" of the Democratic party and I am actually unsure if efforts to unseat him will be successful for the same reasons that Trump and his warband face no consequences because their own political capital. Nobody wants to challenge the base. If you go against Trump you get people breaking into your house and shooting you, if you go against Schumer, you lose your 7-figure retirement and your vacation house on the beach. For many people with a lot to lose, either of these outcomes is equally terrifying.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It’s the latter. Just magically the 8 that are retiring or aren’t up for reelection just manically all got together at the same time to do this? Right…

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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Chuck the Chuck.

[–] khepri@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Every single elected democrat should be primaried from the left in 2028, full stop.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago

The leftists candidates are no longer the spoilers. The Democrats are spoiling it for leftists. The center is just gone.

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