Oh no, they're not just going to let it happen. They'll actively stop us from solving it.
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"Sorry kid, I need my 9% returns on these investment funds, and I don't care where that money comes from."
I bought this stock from a company called planter or something, it's going crazy lately
Well im not having solar panels near my town. They'll absorb all the sunlight and it'll be dark!
...and oligarchy, and fascism, and income inequality, and decreasing life expectancy, and increasing infant mortality, and more wars, and huge amounts of debt, and job loss, and...
Besides that it's smooth sailing.
... and microplastics, and resource scarcity, and MRSA, and infrastructure collapse, and social media addiction, and ...
"We didn't start the fire..." But you guys threw a bunch of petroleum and coal and tar sands on it
Short version: unchecked capitalism.
But I was told that capitalism checks itself using something called βmarket forcesβ.
Turns out "market forces" was just the heavy metal poisoning talking, they were just hallucinating magical economics.
Lead in gasoline and household products really fucked with some generations, hard.

A teacher showed us the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the real truth I learned from that, is that the majority of adults are irresponsible crybabies.
Everyone is just faking it. And those that don't, don't have the attention of those that listen.
Our safety manuals are written one disaster at a time, never before.
Boomer: "Climate change will be your burden to suffer through".
Gen Z: "It's not fair. You got a full life of profligacy before the effects were even noticeable. I get none of the material wealth and I'm going to have to live my whole long life suffering increasing effects of it."
Boomer: "Not so long."
Also boomers: "When are you having kids? I want grandchildren."
Told my mom I didn't want kids and she said, "Oh you'll change your mind"
I came out to my mom as gay and she said "well you can always adopt"
Then I started intense birth control treatments for my fucked up reproductive system and she was like, "you can still adopt"
Yeeted my uterus, cervix, and fallopian tubes just before my bday this summer and threw a fuckin party afterwards because now there is absolutely no way I can ever be a parent AND my reproductive system can't do whatever the fuck it wants cause it doesn't exist!
My mom finally accepted that this part of the family tree has ended after that. This while process happened over 18 years. I started telling her I didn't wanna be a parent when I was TEN.
Edit: I should prolly say that my mom isn't a boomer, but Gen X. She's surrounded constantly by boomers and other members of Gen X who act like boomers so she has picked up a lot of the traits. Practically demanding grandchildren was the worst boomer thing she's done so far, and I hope it stays that way.
Yep. And your generation will do the same, and it will go on like this until it can't be ignored anymore, because that's what humans do, whatever the age.
It literally cannot be ignored anymore.
"You don't miss the water until the well runs dry" has never been a more true expression. People expect that if something is going wrong here'd be immediate and apparent consequence. It seems like a vast majority of people completely lack the skill of extended foresight, where one can look at a current situation and see how it can accumulate into a worse situation later.
A great example of this was my mom during COVID-19:
"All this pandemic talk is just nonsense. I'm not seeing people dying on the streets, now, am I?"
If the effects of climate change aren't immediately apparent with some big global disaster happening overnight, then it's not a big issue or simply not real.
If eating something that causes long term health risks doesn't immediately make you sick overnight then it's not a big issue or simply not real.
until it canβt be ignored anymore
At which point the fascist governments people have voted into power will keep on going as they were while murdering some convenient scapegoats, until mass scale industrialised human society collapses, never to recover because we used up all our resources.
Edit: I honestly think people don't quite understand that once all this bullshit collapses, there will probably never be another high tech civilisation on Earth again: all the easily extractable resources will have been used up, and the amount of energy required to extract more would be higher than what will be available once oil-based hydrocarbons have been more or less used up. Magic batteries that require a ton of resources won't fix the situation, and we have no large scale replacement for oil.
narrator: yes, yes they did.
Looking at this more benevolently, the teacher might be wishing that this kid's generation will end up being more conscious and willing to act than his own.
Yah I don't think there's anything wrong with the message in the context it's presented. It's a fucking teacher. They are already doing not just the most they can, but also doing something far more effective than butting heads with a corporate-driven world at a time when environmentalism was seen as fringe and ludicrous by most people on Earth.
It would be different if it was some wealthy corporate CEO saying "I'm leaving this for the next generation to solve."
I remember a time that even a teacher saying this to a student would be considered inappropriate activism about a controversial topic.
Yes.
... next question?
It's a global issue and America may be taking steps back, but the rest of the world is taking steps forward at least.
Even America is taking some steps forward in some odd ways.
Trump: βAlaskan refuge drilling is wide open! Drill, baby drill! Who wants first bid?β
Shell: βEw, no. Literally no one wants that bad PR.β
I remember a similar comment made by one my highschool teachers. Because I was such a try-hard cringe edge lord I said something like "if my generation got rid of your generation, then we've solved that problem".
Stupid generations war. As stupid as men vs women, religion vs religion etc. It should be smart people vs stupid greedy sociopaths
Humanity doesn't do shit unless the problem is holding the door open with a foot stuck between the door. Then the rest of humanity who the problem hasn't gotten to yet will point and laugh at the person experiencing the problem because reasons. At that point nobody will be too eager to jump and help, lest their door get stuck too by the problem.
What's a middle school teacher supposed to do about it? There's little to nothing we can do at the personal level beyond reducing our personal tiny footprint.
I want to hear what he thinks his generation's problem to solve was.
Too much extra money and not enough beach houses to spend it all!
funny thing is, this was true 40 years ago, and it's true today.
I was thinking like this when I decided to go into the field, like "we can't just doom the next generation and peace out", now i'm deep in it at the highest level and i'm like "ooh that's why.."
Do you think if we had lifespan in the centuries we'd have a different perspective?
The 2001 game Arcanum (a steam punk fanatsy hybrid) had that perspective. You had a world based in late Victorian industrialization and you had elves and dwarves and stuff... but those same dwarves and elves had VERY different views on technology. This is because they live for centuries while humans just decades. They make it clear that the two longer living races often approach technology (elves hate it btw, dwarves like it but are cautious) with caution specifically because they can see the effects of their shit from a hundred years from now while humans simply cannot.
The political process and how to change it in a meaningful and lasting way without risking tyranny is almost always the problem.