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[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago

germany
country of rationalism
trust in institutions

mfer I will throw hands. This country pretends it's eternal 1995. Everybody hates every institutions with a caveat for some of them who love the cops.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago

Germany

rationality

discipline

lmao, this person has either never spoken to a single German, or they're the most annoying person on the planet. This is the country that shut down all their nuclear reactors in a fit of hysteria and replaced them with coal power plants.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

American neoliberals love to produce graphs where White Euros are portrayed in a dichotomy to and pretend it's "rational" by fiddling the data until the US is slightly closer to the "bad" side than, like, Norway.

Their concession of the US being "a little bit icky" is the way the neoliberal feeds you the ideology of Eurocentrism, with the end goal of reproducing US hegemony from first principles.

Just look at Bernie, the way he built a platform of social democracy through contrasting the American state to the Nordics. That ideology then planted the seeds of imperialist resource wars and racial subjegation.

It turned a man who grew up, politically speaking, surrounded by communists, to an active enforcer of the very system that had ratfucked him for his whole life.

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I love phrenology with extra steps! What an amazing coincidence that the results of the study line up exactly with the preconceived notions of the researchers! It's so easy!

Step 1. Define western liberal ideology as inherently good Step 2. Surprise! Western countries are inherently good

I'll take $50 million for this rigorous academic work.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Step 3. Define the "intelligence" of "Artifical intelligence" through feeding a computer a compendium of data scraped from platforms designed by White American neo-fascists and inhabited by the Anglo-Europeans.

Step 4. Refine this "intelligence" through manual interventions to suit the cultural expectations of the Anglo-European information industries which your technology was designed to replace.

Step 5. Surprise! My "intelligent" chatbot designed by White Europeans and tested against a framework designed to segregate White European sensibilities from other societies is culturally White European!

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

I really have a hate boner for this self felating bullshit.

I'd love to know what cultural attitudes they assigned to these countries and what arbitrary methods they used to assign them.

I notice China is the only country that sits outside any other grouping. Probably because they tried to assign it a love for authoritarianism and world domination. Unlike the rational, peace loving western nations.

Edit: I did some digging and at least one of the three Chinese data gatherers for the latest survey spends some of their time in China. The other two are professors at US universities, so I'm sceptical of their objectivity.

https://www.worldvaluessurvey.org/WVSParticipants.jsp

[–] MoreLikeHazBeen@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's fun because the garbage text they pulled this figure from doesn't even have a method section

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I found the source for their data and posted a link. Take a look if you want to. Personally I can't be bothered

[–] MoreLikeHazBeen@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So the values are just self-expression and secularism? What a riveting insight into the minds of the global community

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Apparently Chinese people aren't into self expression. That's the complete opposite to my own experiences in China, but I guess this shitty survey must be more correct

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's easy! Just define self-expression as believing in western liberal individualist ideology and just like that, the ~~orientals~~ Chinese can't self-express!

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Westerners never advanced beyond Linnaeus' division of human "races", they just give it a new coat of paint every few decades. Of course they can't say "scheming asiatics" anymore, so they use phrases like "authoritarianism-inclined". This is just "the researcher's racist bullshit plotted on a graph", like about 90% of studies in this field.

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

These idiots are just the same kind of "authoritarianism experts" that Cold War era Amerikkkan "Kremlinologists" were. New bull, same shit.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sigma China defying all data groupings some-controversy

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

unironically the best indicator of China's advancement towards socialism. To replace the material relations of capitalism, you have to replace the social relations of capitalism too.

they made the computer protestant smh

[–] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

it was the brat of times, it was the wurst of times

[–] MoreLikeHazBeen@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago (2 children)

https://scholar.harvard.edu/sites/scholar.harvard.edu/files/henrich/files/which_humans_09222023.pdf

It's neat how these days just whatever will be picked up like it's rigorous scientific work

[–] MoreLikeHazBeen@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

love to host my preprint (never passed peer review in two years) on my university's drupal server

https://europepmc.org/article/ppr/ppr729711

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

people from Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic (WEIRD) societies

That's a great abbreviation though! (not sure about democratic, but what else starts with D?)

[–] booty@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago
[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah. "Doverflowing with ideology"?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

It's neat how these days just whatever will be picked up like it's rigorous scientific work

to be fair that's never been any different. One glass of wine a day is good for you has been around since what, the 70s?

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

That might be why I felt so good in Lebanon - it's on the opposite side of Germany. Wish those rational, disciplined and oh so trusting people (when is comes to imperialist institutions at least) wouldn't sell weapons to the ones that are destroying Lebanon right now.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You might like this figure from the paper

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 3 points 3 days ago

They pay people actual money for this shit

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

oh point two cultural distance

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

Is red just a grouping of the most reddit countries?

[–] larrikin99@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Northern Ireland is more similar to Uruguay and Czechia than to Great Britain.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

When I've been empirically proven to be a British loyalist as a Czech oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] unaware@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago

Actually LLMs are all Afrikaners, that's why they care so much about white genocide in South Africa

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

Netherlands

Is it going to start arguing that wearing black face for Christmas celebrations is ok?

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 days ago

Anti-vax & angel energy healing center of europe is the "country of rationalism"? That "sterotype" fits the netherlands more, as do most german sterotypes tbh.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

It is kinda funny though that Germans are apparently still behind whatever Dimension 1 and Dimension 2 is supposed to be. GPT ass country