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Listen. People change, I get it. We've had ex-chuds join us here, ex-libs, blah blah blah. The difference here is we will admit that what we used to believe was bad and wrong and try to make up for our past actions
He's apparently had a Nazi tattoo on his chest for almost 20years and never even considered covering it up lmao. That would also be one of the step to take on the road to improving yourself.
"it's going to be a maze"
Theres also a massive difference between seeking admission to a vague movement and ideology, and instantly wanting to leapfrog to being an elected official with no voter accountability.
We all made fun of BlueMAGA but I think we're now into the Blue Nazi era of liberals
-Graham Platner, 8/20/2014 (In response to a comment concerned about Western intervention in the war against IS)
Holy shit
They were always Nazis who supported a genocidal capitalist settler colony.
If we're doing an authentic working class party, I want to see line cooks running for office. Not whatever this is.
Yeah this is kind of like a cop “union”
Mamdani says we need free buses:
He is a communist that must be stopped at all costs
Mamdani says free Palestine:
We must stand up against antisemitism
Blackwater merc with totenkompf tattoo over his heart:
Well, it's complicated you see...
Why won't he admit that it's a Nazi tattoo and it's bad then?
He keeps fuxking denying
I'm a member of the PSL, a working class party, and we don't have a Nazi problem 
What fucking party actually, he's literally a democrat.
Who believes that the democratic party is anywhere remotely near being a working class party?
Who believes that the democratic party is anywhere remotely near being a working class party?
Democrats. Democrats do.
This might be my softest, most liberal opinion –and i have plenty of soft opinions–, but I don't think there's an inherent problem with allowing people who have done bad stuff to participate in a movement. At some point we have to believe in the ability for people to rehabilitate and overcome past choices.
My problem is with allowing these people to be close to positions of representativity and leadership, anywhere near where they can exert power, and that includes being anywhere close to vulnerable people. Want to do the paperwork/cook for the party soup kitchen? knock yourself out. Party leadership, senate, comms, or something public-facing? Nah, can't trust you. If you're serious about your regret for participating in the meat grinder, go pay reparations, improve yourself.
Theoretically, it would be pretty important to have experienced military officers.
But we also need to be sure that they're actually repentant and not just an outed cryptofash like Plat seems to be.
This is very far into the future of any movement in the global north though. As it stands, former troops would not be doing anything military. And it would take a huge amount of vanguard control of the military to prevent getting coup'd in the event of such an opportunity presenting itself.
but I don't think there's an inherent problem with allowing people who have done bad stuff to participate in a movement. At some point we have to believe in the ability for people to rehabilitate and overcome past choices.
Yes, but only after they have been held accountable and brought to justice for helping commit genocide against the good people of Iraq and Afghanistan in service of american capital, of course.
I hate all US active and former military goons. Their sad and depressing fates are better then they deserve. Burn in hell.
Some of the most effective and fervent leftist organizers I've ever met were former military members. Most of these guys were kids from underprivileged and undereducated communities when they joined the military and has never been introduced to concepts like class consciousness untill after the military used and abused them.
Pretty much every effective militant revolution in history were founded or led by a group of former military members. If we cannot accept that people can and will change their minds when exposed to the truth, then what is the point of leftist organizing in the first place?
Leftist claiming to be revolutionaries who then reject the idea that people can change is oxymoronic and counterrevolutionary. Leftists are converted not created, and we cannot afford to reject the willing, able, and capable. Do they have a debt to society? Yes, but they often know this better than anyone, and will work harder than most to pay it off.
I'm not American and I don't live in America. The leftist revolution where I live will involve going to war with America and Americans. I'm not against all military members, I am against American military members. I hate America and the American military for what they did to Iraq. I will never have solidarity with the people thatremovedd and pillaged the Iraqi side of my family. I hate all the people who were a part of it and I hope they all burn in hell forever. I don't care if they "change", I don't believe that any Americans living in the imperial core will ever cast away their labor aristocracy to become leftists. Fuck them forever.
I remember someone mentioning once that most US military are from middle class/petit bourgeois backgrounds and this has been the case for a while.
Also if leftist organizations are being headed by former fascist soldiers then this is more of an indictment to those organizations than anything else tbh.
Furthermore its not really about people not being able to change and become less shit in general per se, its just that those guys are as bad on the same level as IDF who genocide Palestinians and/or nazis who genocided the slavs. Like especially for the platner piece of shit. You can't just proudly wear being a fascist accessory to genocide on your chest, literally in this case.
Why won't anyone think of the poor veterans who had to take mercenary work killing brown people after they were done killing brown people for the government
Do we want an authentic working-class party or not?
Yes, and we absolutely need patriots like Platner who are willing to fight for their country, we could call it national socialists to reflect this
Liberals once again proving that any and all amount of foreign brown blood spilled can always be justified and excused in their eyes. Ghoulish fucks.
Honestly, he initially sounded interesting but the more I learn about his background the more concerned I am that he is an op. Sometimes you have to purity test your candidate, and the nazi-tattooed, ex-blackwater merc socialist-sounding candidate don't cut it.
disregard purity testing I wouldn't want my senator to be a guy this bad at decision making. Like okay, you went to the army, propaganda works. Then you worked for blackwater. Also you got a drunk tattoo in Croatia and then in years upon years never got curious enough to see if what you pointed at to the wall maybe has meaning?
SMH at all these leftists that won't accept that the average member of the working class is an ex-mercenary with the nazi Totenkopf tattooed on their chest
how many vets took mercenary work...
Hardly any. Most vets don't even have the skills an organization like Blackwater wants.
This really lends credence to the "theory" that democrats intentionally run shit ass candidates on purpose to lose. They got a double whammy with this guy being the "progressive left" and claming to be a communist. More ammo for the "extremes are just bad, we should only run liberals to the right of Reagan."
How fucking low does the bar need to be here? Not having a prominently placed Nazi chest tattoo should be an absurdly low bar to clear. Not in Amerikkka I suppose.
Isn't this the mentality of the majority of Amerikkkan Sucdems? Free college and healthcare, who cares how many poor brown folks are enslaved and killed...Amerikkka first!
Why do we need this particular ~~nazi~~ "working class guy" to act as a representative? There is no shortage of working class people who either aren't nazis or at least don't fuck up so bad that it is hard to prove they are not nazis.
Just literally point the media spotlight on another person.
Forever thankful that Jeremy Scahill's book on Blackwater was the beginning of the end of my liberalism. You shouldn't even want this motherfucker in your community let alone some sort of position of power
If you need money or you'll starve, and your choices are blackwater merc or rob a gas station, you should rob a gas station because you have the choice to not kill people and you'll hurt fewer people.
If a real working class party includes these people the world will burn in hellfire because the social democrats (moderate wing of fascism) will do what they do best and neuter it such that western capital can go ahead and genocide as many people as necessary, commit total ecocide, and burn the world with nuclear fire.
Apathetic people suddenly develop empathy, when they themselves start getting called out, odd isn't it? Empathy for the fellow wrongdoer, not the people they hurt.
If they go to war and feel guilty about destroying lives, shouldn't they want to help the people they've hurt? To help ease the pain as much as they can.
Working-will-set-you-free class party
Dipshits like this better hope the blackwater merc with a nazi tattoo never does get elected to prove that he is in fact a nazi later down the line or else they'll be eating their own words and find their credentials as a socialist or progressive in tatters. Nobody will ever listen to them again.
Inshallah at this point, the sooner people leave the dead end of Democratic Party entryism, the better
what needing to simultaneously believe that nazis are bad and nazi tattoos are good to feel ok about supporting Ukraine does to a mf
Military, blackwater and nazi tattoos? Thats a big fucking leopard waiting to eat someone's face if I've ever seen one.
Yikes…
Like I know TMR is lib as fuck, but they were palatable. Michael Brooks was such a huge loss tho…
How long before they pull a TYT and do some union busting and spouting off TERF talking points?
Why should he have to face the difficult decision of working in retail or food service or at a warehouse? He's a veteran, for cryin' out loud!
If you want an authentic working-class party, you need to be willing to accept people who are just too good for low-wage work.
All my friends with incomplete maze tattoos just simply prove that the cost of living is getting out of hand.
'Progressive' liberals: 