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Kinda reminds me of boot camp, using psychological attacks to break down men's will and have him disregulated and complient

pickup artists seemed to heavily reinforce the manosphere alot prior to the likes of tate, and peterson. and Gymbros fall for it as well. especially the ones that are make jokes about people who are not going to gyms, or they eat certain foods that the gymbro doesnt like, eventhough they arnt the one eating. they always make a snide or passive aggressive comment.(its none of your business)

so many comments claiming this post blames or makes fun of men and incels that i went back and reread the whole thing... what the fuck are the lot of you even responding to‽ there's nothing like that in the post, and on the contrary it says men are victimized by this. Jesus, some of you are really willing to take anything as a slight. beats self reflection i guess.

Contrapoints has a really great video about this.

What is "manosphere"?

this post brings up some good points, but I want to be clear that turning men into women hating incels who will die alone is the GOAL of all this rhetoric. it doesn't have to be that way.

if your reaction to this post is "women bad" you should take a step back and realize they've already gotten you to take the first step down the pipeline.

be 5' 7"

not attractive to most women (aww)

every airplane seat feels like first class

live longer on average (aww)

workout once a week and look buff

no car is too small

sleep like a king in beds of any size

women generally trust you more easily cos your presence is non-threatening

You know it's not that bad of a trade. Y'all sixfooters have fun with the girls.

Eh, I agree and disagree with the image text. There are similarities, yes, but I wouldn't view it quite as closely connected as the post implies. Main reason being that there's a difference between using verbal abuse to control someone's actions -- like what it implies an abusive boyfriend would do to control his gf -- and using generally third party reference points to construct an admittedly grim world view for a broad demographic group. The manosphere approach is closer, I'd say, to the marketing done by the women's beauty industry in this regard.

Ie. there are certain trends / norms that women tend to cycle through, and certain beauty standards that people generally seem to expect from women (without digging in to that!). The beauty industry leverages that and puts out products re-enforcing those norms / helping ppl align to those norms. There are lots of people that find alternative body types attractive, and/or that have more realistic expectations. But if you're a woman who's obsessed with beauty trends, it can become an unhealthy obsession leading to potential issues like anorexia.

In that it's toxic when taken to an extreme, and in that its fundamentals are based in "reality", the beauty industry's similar to manosphere rhetoric. The manosphere's "short guys get no girls" mentality is backed by many short guys experiences with dating (especially online, where they're pre-filtered!); similarly, a fat girl with lopsided facial features will have difficulty, making the beauty industries products/message more enticing/convincing. They both leverage the generally negative real world experiences of their target audiences to 'ground' their message. Both movements also have equatable super stars -- "Supermodels"/OnlyFans girls/Twitch Streamers/Whatever who are deemed the most beautiful women, and "Tech bros" who are fathering armies of children and touting right wing eugenics-like ideals.

Mostly pointing this alternative comparison out, because I think there's a bit of grey on the manosphere stuff. An obsession with beauty standards/industry stuff is unhealthy, but in moderation its ok/beneficial; an obsession with "men's rights"/"men's issues" is unhealthy, but in moderation it's likely a good thing. More guys being more conscious about their health, and getting more exercise, isn't a bad thing after all -- and that's one of the themes in that manosphere clusterfuck.

"OMG these people are incel losers they have no worth and deserve to die!"

"Incel losers" commits a horrific crime because they were treated like they have no worth and deserve to die

"OMG can you believe it? We should bully them harder, that will fix things!"

Maybe the fucking problem is people treating these poor people so horribly. We want to PREVENT such things happening which means addressing the root of the problem and trying to catch people who could fall into those destructive manoaphere circles BEFORE they get the idea to commit mass murder. I'm PRETTY positive the solution isn't to bully them more.