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Senate report says AI will take 97M US jobs in the next 10 years, but those numbers come from ChatGPT
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This shit's so embarrassing
this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2025
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It hasn't taken any jobs, but this will keep being repeated so it can be used as a bludgeon against pay rises and keeping up with inflation.
'you're lucky to have a job'
It hasn’t taken any jobs
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A lot of these bozos are drinking their own Kool-aid. They're laying off internal teams in droves and pivoting to "Vibes Coding" as a presumably more efficient method of internal devleopment.
I disagree, I have literally heard of people being laid off because managers think that AI can and will replace actual workers, I have literally seen it too. It's already happening.
Yeah, it just hasn't taken any of those jobs, apparently.
If we can make it through to midterm elections I will worry then.
even with the midterms, trump did so much damage, its only going to end up being blame on dems anyways. its better to intervene later, mainly having republican recieve the blame for once.
My prediction is that AI, as in LLMs, will be responsible for 0 net jobs lost but simultaneously responsible for many companies going under.
People will lose their jobs to AI in the same way that lumberjacks lose their job to forest fires.
thats UE4 Manny lol
robot tax
Needs to stop with stupid gimmicks from Bernie. Higher personal, corporate, and investment taxes to fund UBI. Welcome robots/automation to free us from any useless work instead of looking at cannibal solutions to "pick me" for the one job there is.
Robot taxes are wrongheaded, because automation is hard to define. Taxing pipes and wires will make full employment getting all your energy and water with buckets from the river and chopping down all the trees. Even if we strained to define narrow robots/automation categories, it would encourage more foreign production, and no local robot production economy. Why would those selling Yachts to the robot owners not be taxed?
we dont even have universal healthcare or functional public transit, UBI is a pipedream...
UBI is an easy winning election platform. The most promising aspect of UBI is that it is power redistribution. Wealth doesn't get redistributed, and rich get richer even with higher taxes.
A UBI election platform has to be an anti-zionazi corruption platform. Everyone who pledges loyalty to Israel with a policy influence position is automatically a traitor, and will wait for their treason trial in military prison, citizenship removed, and their zionazi donors wealth must be zeroed out (confiscated by state). Defense and oil industries must be nationalized for their warmongering and zionazi influence. Zionazi media must be nationalized. AIPAC lobbyists and donors are traitors, not just foreign agents. ADL is a hate group.
we dont even have universal healthcare or functional public transit
Because of extreme political corruption. Money in politics and media tells you to never change that. US pays 5% of GDP more than Canada on healthcare, and a significant quality of life improvement for Americans comes from spending less overall, including not being subject to stress and crime that causes healthcare. Health lobbies, and all other oligarchies, allying with Zionazi donor wishes is an easier path for corruption than excluding zionazi influence to their own party. Andrew Yang's 2016 book tour presidential run (focused on UBI/freedom dividends) started with including Universal healthcare, but like DNC, accepted fundraising to lose all principles. His attempt to form a centrist party/coalition is effectively a zionazi only political coalition.
We cannot have nice things because Israel supremacy and war has to be purpose of US government. Your misery makes you ignore the pure evil of US, because bandaids on your misery is all that gets politically debated. You can't think of American or human sustainability if collapse is imminent. UBI is the complete extermination of the establishment corruption. UBI makes every program have a cash dividend alternative that makes it virtually impossible for corrupt filth to support wasteful programs.
On AI topic, "national security to beat China" = make Skynet to support Israel media/information control to diminish and oppress us all for oligarchy. The alternative to freedom dividends/UBI is genocide of the slave class that has resistance negatives, and no longer any useful slavery positives, to Israel/oligarchy.
and again...how do you imagine your getting to that point in a country that can't even agree people deserve access to healthcare at all, let alone affordable/quality healthcare...
I very specifically provided complete necessary political messaging. UBI does not provide supremacist power to election winner. It provides freedom and prosperity to people. Since money = speech has already been enshrined, money is terrorist treasonous oppression when used for Zionist first warmongering rule over the country. You must disqualify from politics those who get media/donor support, and pledge loyalty, for their terrorist treasonous oppression of Americans.
can’t even agree people deserve access to healthcare at all,
The biggest issue that influences Trump supporters that I know is total obsession with trans normalization/DEI stories. An olympic female boxer is hated because she is not feminine looking enough. 2nd is any crime or pet eating accusation of immigrants. Covid policies, 3rd. Biden intentionally forcing egg prices higher is just BS they go along with because the same sources that feed their hate on those top 3 issues, pile on for GOP support.
That GOP politicians gaslight support for those issues in order to give oligarchs tax cuts funded by cuts on healthcare is not "people disagree on healthcare is good", it's just politicians ignoring what people want. The BS that reimbursing states for medicaid expenses they pay hospitals is giving them money that can be spent on anything, including immigrant protections, is just complete BS, that needs disinformation from sources that feed their 3 priority hate points, which MAGA trusts, to disinform them on oligarchy protections.
The Zionazi/oligarch rulership gaslighting on every other issue can be exterminated. Only through UBI. An election platform that invalidates current establishment power funding.
In fact, UBI is complete nonsense because you won't be able to save for anything since your account will be reset every time, and you will again receive about 2k in currency, which will all go to pay for basic needs and in the end you will become like a pet.
or fast rail way, even in places that are funded better. public transports is lacking in many areas , for example it doesnt go areas outside of cities where most tech jobs/biotech campuses are without a car.
We don't necessarily need higher taxes, we could probably put an income cap on SS benefits, remove the cap on SS taxes, and fund it with the excess.
An extremely weird thing GOP did, but explained as Trump diaper lickers, is make SS tax free, even though they've been pressuring for SS diminishment reform in last 8 years. A very simple alternative that could have been done is taxes on SS income could flow back into SS fund to strengthen it.
Overall, increased taxes on investment income alone can pay for UBI.
Stop calling LLM AI. It creates false expectations.
The fact that "AI" training off other LLM slop produces worse and worse results is proof there is no "intelligence" going on just clever parroting.
Just look at who's in charge of the Senate, and ask yourself if they are to be trusted to do anything but lie, steal and carry out witch hunts.
As for LLMs, unless driving contact-centre customer satisfaction scores even further through the floor counts as an achievement, so far, all there's been has been a vast volume of hype and wasted energy, and very little to show for it, except for some highly constrained point solutions which aren't significant enough to make economic impact. Even then, the ROI is questionable.
So they want to keep them terrified of losing their shitty, barely functioning status quo.
The reality is that these are the numbers the Republicans want , because it's the numbers their billionaire owners want. ChatGPT is just accidentally letting us know how they've poisoned the models.
Yes but got forbid those jobs be stolen by another country. Can’t have that.
LOLLLLLLLL that’s like a third of the US population. Probably half of the number currently employed. There’s no way in hell this useless garbage will take 1/3 to 1/2 of all jobs. Companies that do this will go out of business fast.
And these 1/3 are perfect horde for fascist brainwashing and consolidate the power of techno-fascists. The fascists will tell the jobless that immigrants took their jobs and not robots.
You can tell how competent someone is at something by how good they think AI is at that thing.
You can tell how competent someone is at something by how good they think AI is at that thing.
This is so true.
I recently had a colleague - ignorant of this perspective - give a training presentation on using AI to update a kind of bullshit job useless document.
Dozens of peers attended their presentation. They went on demonstrating relatively mindless prompt inputting for 40 minutes.
I keep remembering just how many people they shared their AI enthusiasm with.
I think they may honestly believe that AI has democratized the workplace, and that they will vibe code their way to successful startup CEO-ship in a year.
I also find it interesting how whenever I've expressed the above sentiment either here or on the Other Place, the up/downvote ratios seem to vary massively depending on the tech-bro quotient of the group. I'm mildly surprised to see it go entirely positive in a community called "technology".
Well yeah, a tech-bro ain't actually that technologically inclined to begin with.
To that I say, welcome to Lemmy!
I think the fad will die down a bit, when companies figure out that AI will be more likely than humans to make very expensive mistakes that the company has to compensate, and saying it was the AI is not a valid cop out.
I foresee companies will go bankrupt on that account.
It doesn't help to save $100k on cutting away an employee, if the AI causes damages for 10 or 100 times that amount.
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This is how AI will take over... not through wars or competence, but by being better at bureaucratic forgeries...
Edit: well, I guess the apple never falls far from the tree, as it were! Wa-hey! We wanted to create the ultimate worker, but we've managed to create the ultimate politician instead=))
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Thus demonstrating the crux of the issue.
I was just looking for a name of a historical figure associated with the Declaration of Independence but not involved in the writing of it. Elizabeth Powel. Once I knew the name, I went through the ai to see how fast they’d get it. Duck.ai confidently gave me 9 different names, including people who were born on 1776 or soon thereafter and could not have been historically involved in any of it. I even said not married to any of the writers and kept getting Abagail Adams and the journalist, Goddard. It was continually distracted by “prominent woman” and would give Elizabeth Cady Stanton instead. Twice.
Finally, I gave the ai a portrait. It took the ai three tries to get the name from the portrait, and the portrait is the most used one under the images tab.
It was very sad. I strongly encourage everyone to test the ai. Easy to grab wikis that would be top of the search anyway are making the ai look good.
If you understand how LLMs work, that's not surprising.
LLMs generate a sequence of words that makes sense in that context. It's trained on trillions(?) of words from books, Wikipedia, etc. In most of the training material, when someone asks "what's the name of the person who did X?" there's an answer, and that answer isn't "I have no fucking clue".
Now, if it were trained on a whole new corpus of data that had "I have no fucking clue" a lot more often, it would see that as a reasonable thing to print sometimes so you'd get that answer a lot more often. However, it doesn't actually understand anything. It just generates sequences of believable words. So, it wouldn't generate "I have no fucking clue" when it doesn't know, it would just generate it occasionally when it seemed like it was an appropriate time. So, you'd ask "Who was the first president of the USA?" and it would sometimes say "I have no fucking clue" because that's sometimes what the training data says a response might look like when someone asks a question of that form.
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