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Reminds me of this:

I think atproto is a good protocol, but god bluesky-the-company is dogshit.

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[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If we're going to focus on form instead of content, it's amusing that "if you say mean things about ai then you're a bigot" is the exact same form as "if you say mean things about Trump then you're a terrorist."

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 60 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Not only that, she introduced mass surveillance to Bluesky and is brainstorming further methods of such in response to getting clowned on so hard.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I'm not touching bluesky's servers after this.

Migration luckily works pretty well on atproto.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago

Rainbow painted fascist.

Scratch the surface too hard, oops, its another shitlib.

God I am so tired of idiots confusing identity politics and virtue signalling with being left wing, but apparently, most people really are just skin deep.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Thanks for surfacing this. Holy shit.

Well. 'Engineer'. You know it's all vibes to them.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

And to think all this could have been solved by bsky simply hiring some communication specialists and treating the current events like a crisis, and acting like their users are the police.

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

Hoo boy. The original person being reposted continues on their original post that they believe we cannot be certain that genAI does not have feelings.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

Just complete the delusional circuit and tell them you can't be sure they aren't an AI, ask them how they would prove they aren't.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do we have people wasting their time arguing about software having feelings when we haven’t even managed to convince the majority of people that fish and crabs and stuff can feel pain even though they don’t make a frowny face when you hurt them.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 7 points 1 week ago

That's easy, it's because LLM output is a reasonable simulation of sounding like a person. Fooling people's consciousness detector is just about their whole thing at this point.

Crabs should look into learning to recite the pledge of allegiance in the style of Lady GaGa.

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[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 1 week ago

How online do you have to be where "people dunking on AI "artists" is like Kristallnacht" doesn't sound completely fucking deranged?

[–] self@awful.systems 18 points 1 week ago

this thread has broken containment, and the median quality of the discussion has dropped to the point where some rando decided to start a subthread about how it’s not ok to celebrate hitler’s death and also two regulars had an extremely heated fight about who was the most not-mad about the word chat as a noun/pronoun/whatever in English of all fucking things so uhhhh that’s all folks

[–] Juice@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago

This is called rationalizing because any relationship with reality it has is strictly rationed

[–] ook@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm so confused reading all this.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Their argument is something like this:

People might say something like "ai is incapable of thinking" or "ai is stupid", but if you replace the word "ai" with something like "women", you're saying something unacceptable.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

So they're attributing personhood to AI.

Before it has come anywhere close to meaningfully mimicking conciousness.

Are they stupid?

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

AI believers believe that stringing random words together is equal to consciousness, they absolutely are stupid.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Perhaps because it reflects their level of consciousness.

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"If you said something different you would've said something different" what brilliant rhetoric, your mom must be proud

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[–] monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah makes sense now! So if I change the meaning, then the meaning changes. Man, that’s brilliant!

[–] it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I love how this is so close to a cogent critique of people literally just repeating racist jokes but using a word swap to make them acceptable, and then the "(whatever that means)" hits and it all falls into place.

[–] Gullible@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

.Hailey.at may currently be dating an AI and feels insecure about others judging them, so they must convince themselves that their linguistic vibrator has a soul.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Meanwhile I've seen people justifying the power use of genAI with "but people also consume as much if not more energy through their lives".

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

One of the replies talking about someone celebrating Hitler's death regularly, even if they're a survivor of the camps, is mentally ill?

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (14 children)
[–] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I refuse to click that link and instead choose to believe that Mikhail Gorbachev caused Skibidi Toilet unironically.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 10 points 1 week ago

It's pretty unironic. It's a legit chain of culture and economics that leads from Gorbachev straight to Skibidi Toilet as they evolved and morphed over time from external influences.

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[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I think everyone can agree on "this is a slur that we took from StarWars to be derogatory and justify our distaste and opposition to genAI", it's just that some people think that's a bad thing?

Like it appears some people think using the n-word is bad because it's Bad™, not because there's an actual dehumanising effect on a group of people. What's your argument, that we're dehumanising Grok? Ye because it's not a human! "But if it was about the Jews it'd be bad" ye and if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike, what the fuck is your point?

As for the origins I also think it is very important that the word is "clanker" from StarWars, since their droids are not sentient, whereas both "toaster" and "skinjob" are actually used as a hateful term towards sentient beings. BSG goes out of its way to drive in the fact that genociding Cylons would also be bad, actually. The sentience of "skinjobs" is like the whole point of Blade Runner.

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