Soyweiser

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 2 days ago

Think the opposition to it is pre manosphere, but yeah, I think from tne manosphere side not everybody who says that is a anti-semite / anti-islam, lot of it also felt very 'we need a cause to show those dastardly feminists that they don't have the moral high ground', if that makes sense. Same with the manospherian opposition to prison rape (which often felt a lot of 'men get raped too!' stuff, and not really that active in opposition to the prison system. (I mean in general, there are elements of it that were pretty vocal about it, but from what I always got from that space was that is was more like an empty signal). (Note im just talking about the manosphere and the bits I read from that space, not the general opposition to circumcision).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 4 days ago

Haha, wow the reactions to that, 3 levels deep and suddenly people are talking about screws. (Im being positive here btw, funny to see what people have made/learned and how happy they seem with it).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 4 days ago

Too late, I already put it on the blockchain.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, just learned a black person was killed in the USA, and the only reason this was getting some attention was because Renee Good was also killed.

With the benefit of a sea of distance between me and the USA this is just really fucked up. Two different Americas.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry forgot to check, despite a friend of mine doing the same to me with tumblr and I'm also annoyed then.

Not sure i had it in me to alt text all that yarvin however

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Scott Alexander: "I wish the neoreactionaries dropped the monarchy shit"

Monkey paw curls (content warnings: antisemitism, Yarvin).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago

H2O2 is just water with an extra O.

Water 2.0, get on it or get left behind!

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 week ago

That is shit, also sending good vibes. It never is just one thing isnt it. Bad luck always seems to come in multiples.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also I can’t help but notice that he didn’t verify the correctness of the solution

Think I have mentioned the story I heard here once, about the guy who wrote a program to find some large prime which he ran on the mainframe over the weekend, using up all the calculation budget his uni department had. And then they confronted him with the end result, and the number the program produced ended in a 2. (He had forgotten to code the -1 step).

This reminded me of that story. (At least in this case it actually produced a viable result (if costly), just with a minor error).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah I was also ver specifically thinking about Christian heresies, and not counting all the other religious wars/conflicts/murders going round.

Do always think it is funny that the whole magical staves thing which people think is some old norse early medieval thing comes from the 17th century and is a bit more christian (even if it is a strange offshoot, esp with iceland being mostly converted to Christianity in the 1000s). But that is unrelated to everything above, more that history is big and what we assume is often not correct and from the wrong periods. As I did here myself. Edit: wonder if there is an overlap between the staves and the sigils from The Lesser Key of Solomon, both of the sources for these things seems to be written in the same period (the lesser key is based on earlier works from what I could tell the sigils itself are always credited to the lesser key, so no idea if they predate that, I don't have much access to grimoires from the 1500s).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Seems my edit and your reply crossed each other. No I agree, I was wrong in all the ways, thanks for the correction and information.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ah thanks, I didnt know. Edited a bit more in btw. Sorry about that. Scattered mind with a lot of L'esprit de l'escalier energy.

E: A quick Wikipedia check: To provide more of that energy, 1200 in France, yeah I totally stand corrected. My bad people, thanks.

 

Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

 

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

 

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

 

Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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