Soyweiser

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 16 hours ago

While I like it, I wish there were more people pushing back and it not just being people involved with van Rooij. Makes it to easy to dismiss the concerns as just her being a crank. (Which I don't think she is obviously, just wish there were more people in academia pushing harder back).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 16 hours ago

There are 'user uses AI/has AI profile' lists to they really are objecting to the word 'slop'.

'slop is a slur' discourse incoming in T minus -100.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 16 hours ago

Could also just be accidental stuff. I mean if you google and you get an AI reply, does that count for example? How many of it is 'my boss said I should use it, so I tossed some questions in there for the stats'.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Stuff like this has been coming for a while now, and I hate it. See also how your windows login screen can have ads on it.

Considering the rate of return on advertisements, I don't think this is a financially good sigh.

And interestingly a friend of mine who basically only games switched to Linux, and it seemed to have been rather painless. And most of his games work with minimal fiddling. (And there are even tools to help you with 'which games of my library will not run well'. Which did surprisingly well on his large library. So linux on the desktop might be closer than we think).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Amusing just how basic his insults and ideas about the left are. This is generic drunken bar patron shit. Lot of projection there. You lost it Moldy, you need to add more obscure references so you don't come off so reactionary/reactive mid.

E: DakotaVAdams‬ wrote:

I think he's imagining cool Antifa street fighters as a replacement for the popular kids he was jealous of in childhood. Netd-Jock [sic] seething, but ideological.

It is not just us.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

i wonder what else he had go wrong the last period he needed a distraction like this

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Going on the Grok output, I saw: Conservapedia with more uses of the word fuck (it can now use the word fuck), extremely verbose mid insults and weird flirting.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Or add a rocket booster.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

the site didn’t have an ssl cert, since that was a way “modern browsers control you”.

I feel attacked. Not in the 'I agree with this person' way, but in a way that this feels like nerd sniping people like me. So stupid you have to react.

Java 8

See! That is what I mean!

But as somebody who values old cultures, I will not throw stones. ;)

Also the guy is an eugenicist wannabe cult leader.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

'some of the most bigoted things'

You mean stuff like 'no this is stupid, wtf is wrong with you' or 'lol, look they really think LLMs are alive' stuff like that? The worst I saw (granted I didn't look very hard) was 'ok boomer'.

Of course actual meanings of words mean nothing to AI fans.

(Also, thing which is a personal gripe, the skeet before the 'bigotry neuron' has 2 images in it, without alt text. If you are going to pretend to value progressive values, at least put in some effort).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago

And to think all this could have been solved by bsky simply hiring some communication specialists and treating the current events like a crisis, and acting like their users are the police.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 3 days ago

When I was young the whole part where they misrecall history just felt like a 1984 bit to me. And I reread it after Helldivers 2 came out, and I noticed a lot of odd things, like how their ideology doesn't make sense, how for some reason all the smart people seem to die (by being put in dangerous spots), people who disagree with them being setup as strawmen (old ladies, and crazy people basically), and how odd it is that Rico while not being smart (he only qualifies for the infantry after all) is judged as perfect officer material. Which felt to me like they were selecting for stupid people. (the guy not being able to do math properly while their ideology is based on some unspoken math science thing is also funny).

And then there is the whole uplifted scout dogs thing. Who all commit suicide the first time they encounter a bug (which means nobody ever tested that, and they still deployed their whole scout dog force on the planet). And due to some psychic link this also makes their handler useless.

It is just a weird book tbh. The military scenes make little sense (just randomly blow things up) and are just warcrimes. The ideology is dumb and is based on a handwave, and if you read between the lines (which was not intended obv) and make Rico into an unreliable narrator because he isn't that smart (see also how he never doubts that people who get executed are guilty, the law system fucking up isn't a thing he thinks about, but he knows the system isn't fallible, as they complain about how big of a mess the war logistics are) and misses things, there seems to be a whole different thing going on.

Also democracy fell because kids were not spanked enough.

Hope this made it a bit clear why I think you can also read it as a dystopian unreliable narrator being manipulated novel even if it wasn't intended.

But yeah the space suits are cool.

 

Via reddits sneerclub. Thanks u/aiworldism.

I have called LW a cult incubator for a while now, and while the term has not catched on, nice to see more reporting on the problem that lw makes you more likely to join a cult.

https://www.aipanic.news/p/the-rationality-trap the original link for the people who dont like archive.is used the archive because I dont like substack and want to discourage its use.

 

As found by @gerikson here, more from the anti anti TESCREAL crowd. How the antis are actually R9PRESENTATIONALism. Ottokar expanded on their idea in a blog post.

Original link.

I have not read the bigger blog post yet btw, just assumed it would be sneerable and posted it here for everyone's amusement. Learn about your own true motives today. (This could be a troll of course, boy does he drop a lot of names and thinks that is enough to link things).

E: alternative title: Ideological Turing Test, a critical failure

 

Original title 'What we talk about when we talk about risk'. article explains medical risk and why the polygenic embryo selection people think about it the wrong way. Includes a mention of one of our Scotts (you know the one). Non archived link: https://theinfinitesimal.substack.com/p/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about

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Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

 

Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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