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Colin Kaepernick pays for autopsy of Black student found hanging from tree (www.motherjones.com)
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[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Absolutely needed after one of the coroners was commenting while they were still taking the kid's body away

In an interview with the Mississippi Free Press, Bolivar County Deputy Coroner Murray Roark said he assisted fellow Deputy Coroner Dwayne Proctor in examining Reed’s body. Roark stated that he saw no signs of broken arms or legs.

“I saw no broken limbs,” he said, declining to elaborate further at the time. “I don’t think I should probably discuss this any further than that. My opinion is that it was self-done, and I have reasons for that.”

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 95 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What the fuck why does someone have to pay for that what the fuck are we doing here?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 104 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Reading the article, the state conducted an autopsy, but Kaepernick is funding a second private autopsy because he doesn't trust the state and wants to help

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago

Fascist gets sacrificed for the fascist narrative and it was openly done by a fascist..

The entirety of social media and all traditional media loses their shit.

A very obvious murder takes place

The entirety of social media is celebrating this death except for us, and the official government case might as well just be “Who cares?”

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Ah I see that makes sense. Whole thing sounds fishy af.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 78 points 1 day ago

paying for a second, non-state-ordered autopsy, because the state in question is mississippi

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago

Mississippi cops and coroner did a coverup and ruled it a suicide

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 day ago

am*rica

[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Mississippi goddamn

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

waow-based

Love to see other rich athletes or entertainers who talk about being progressive do the same. Colin has a well earned axe to grind already, maybe Kimmel could start writing some checks for others who got fired for the same reason but arent already rich and famous? Glad somebody with money and a mouth puts the two together in a good way, sucks it had to be a guy who was already raked over the coals

[–] regul@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Would you change your mind if I told you that he's currently shilling for a company trying to bring AI into schools?

Land of contrasts.

[–] i_drink_bleach@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (5 children)

he's currently shilling for a company trying to bring AI into schools

Fucking wut? I'm going back to school to finish out my engineering degree and every single class has a giant multi-paragraph disclaimer about use of AI as scholastic dishonesty that will not be treated lightly. I mean, good, but wtf does he mean? Like elementary and high schools? What happens when these kiddos get to college after they're completely dependent on some LLM to even think for them and the professor is like: "nah dawg"? They just flunk the fuck out because they can't generate a single coherent thought independently? What the fuck is the end-game of this whole "AI" crap?

Even viewing it from a capitalist lens, I don't understand what the goal is. So "AI" becomes so smart and self-recursive that human labor is arbitrary. OK. Then what? You live in capitalism. People have to buy your widgets. If nobody has any money to buy your widgets because "AI" put everyone out of work, then all you have is a warehouse full of "AI"-generated widgets that nobody can buy. So now what? I'm not being facetious. Seriously, now what? How does this work out in your favor? How does this work out in anyone's favor?

Is AI selling AI-generated goods to other AI? WTF is the end-goal of this exercise?

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

It's a major push. The AI companies are trying to do what Apple and Microsoft did and make kids dependant on their tech.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 day ago

I am currently doing my CS degree and I have professors who basically dont really teach the material anymore because "you should ask chatGPT for questions"

[–] simpletailor@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately LLM policies are often determined on a class-by-class basis. I have met lots of educators and education administrators across k-12 and university who are pro-LLM usage. They typically don't understand how it works, and/or believe it currently can do better than it can.

I have had undergrad students who use chatgpt without question, thinking it's totally fine (despite my syllabus policy), and k-12 students who won't touch it with a 10-ft pole before I cautioned them against it. Lots of individual variation and credulity.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly my institution just wants you to cite your use of ai. Upsetting.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately this is still better in terms of disclosure than in industry where executives will just feed company secrets to Altman even if there's an internal LLM built just to prevent that, and the BS generator still creates BS sometimes. I'm sure there are plenty of students who just vibe code without having a BS filter (faculty and staff encouraging LLM usage isn't inherently problematic IMHO, but when they do this to offload the work of actually teaching, it really doesn't help...) and it's only going to make their lives harder.

[–] shallot@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

That’s next quarter’s problem

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Classic Amerika

Everything is incoherent

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

he can be good and bad at the same time

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Yes it would and did.

[–] RedRook1917@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago

Kaep is the best. Talk about someone willing to fall on the sword for their principles.

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

would the autopsy even find evidence if he was lynched?

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago

Absolutely, there would be signs of struggle and or binding, bruises at the very least or failing that toxicology showing the victim was drugged.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

maybe there's evidence of assault, maybe there's somebody else's dna under his fingernails. sometimes they can tell the difference between wounds inflicted while someone is alive and damage done after they died.

[–] mudpuppy@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ok that makes sense. holding out hope, i was just pessimistic that there will never be justice for this guy

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah i don't know how conclusive it could be or what evidence the first guy could've destroyed, but there's a chance, maybe.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As far as whether it was suicide or a lynching that should be clear cut as fuck. Generally people fight for their lives and need to be subdued to the point you can hang them or would have to be drugged to the point they cant resist. Both would be super apparent in an autopsy. You cant just string someone up without there being physical evidence of struggle.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

yeah, a little bit wondering if they drugged him and the KKKoroner didn't check or there's a plausible way to conceal that without getting found out immediately

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess you could just lie on the paperwork but toxicology would be really hard to conceal medically without really tampering with a corpse in an obvious way. When someone dies their circulatory and other systems tend to cease functioning so whatever is present innthe blood or digestive system at the time of death will stick around. A corpse can't sober up, so aside from filing a false report there isn't much else you can do to lie about that

[–] jack@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When someone dies their circulatory and other systems tend to cease functioning

Hexbear is home to finest scientific minds

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Im a thinker's thinker

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on the poison and how it was administered, but generally there's no way you're getting any substance out of his system without it being even more obvious than the presence of the substance itself. Usually poison gets circulated pretty broadly throughout the body and that's not something that you can just excise.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i was thinking like spiking his drink and then killing him

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, you'd expect whatever was put in his drink to exist throughout his system. You know how you can smoke pot and have a form of it show up in your pee (a metabolized byproduct, not the drug itself)? It's like that, but it also (in both cases) applies to all of the blood in your body. What are they going to do? Pump all the blood out of his body and replace it? That's extremely difficult if not functionally impossible and, assuming it's possible, would both cause an external wound and probably fuck up his circulatory system structurally. It's also just logistically not possible unless you mean that the coroner himself did the cover-up or someone else involved in the legal custody of the corpse. And that's probably the easiest part, because the evidence would also be embedded in other fluids, like those in the eye, tissues throughout the body, and maybe even hair.

If this person was poisoned and a second coroner is being hired under suspicion of the first one being dishonest, there is no way they wouldn't be able to discover this fact even if truly extensive and absurd measures were taken to try to hide it.

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

sometimes they can tell the difference between wounds inflicted while someone is alive and damage done after they died.

I don't think it would be pertinent here, but this is usually not difficult to tell because how damage to the body manifests is extremely different with and without active blood flow (among other things, depending on the time scale).

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If there is signs of struggle on the body, they can identify it.

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

*assuming the coroner isn't a personal racist and/or bought and paid for by the pigs

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hence this second autopsy

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

yes i'm aware
i'm saying the second coroner could be those things

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

hope kaep's people or the family's lawyers or whoever are able to get someone who isn't

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a police investigation what?

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"It's the 20s and lynchings by state-backed KKK-adjacent groups are going strong in the US South."

Other commenters have explained, but the police in this case aren't even trying to hide their true colors and trying to pass it off as a suicide