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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 19 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Possible return suggested

And it will be way too late for Disney and abc, those subscribers won't be coming back, ever.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Actually returning as customers will show Disney they in fact do need to pay attention to the customers in the future, and that boycotts will influence their decisions in the future.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

If they fix the mistake I will go back but the second they mess up again I will cancel again.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

yep, otherwise it'll just be a revolving door as people shift from company to company

like up here in Canada with grocery stores. people boycotts Loblaws, but other chains will do equally bad shit a few months later. so the net result is what, exactly?

gotta actually reward good behaviour, not just punish bad

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

The article states that the feeling that they fucked up in being fascist collaborators is not wide spread therefore this is not good behavior to be rewarded.

This is panicky collaborators simply looking at their temporarily subscriber numbers and trying to do PR control. These executives have not learned a thing here and doing good behavior, it's still bad, reactionary behavior that deserves to be continued punishment.

My two cents, unless Iger and the majority of the edifices are fired, continue to boycott.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 31 points 16 hours ago

Disney needs to suffer permanently for bowing down to a lame ass Nazi like trump and his team of pedophiles and fake Christians.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 54 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Still, according to another well-placed source, while some senior staff are expressing disappointment in how it all went down, “it is in no way widespread”.

Keep cancelling

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago

Disney deserves it for lots of reasons anyway. Like the pillaging and privatisation of the common culture, the weaponising of intellectual property, among others.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 21 points 18 hours ago

Yup. The fact that supposedly some higher-ups already weren’t on board with this decision means that consumer pressure here is more important than ever

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 11 points 16 hours ago

Wouldn't it be great if after all this they give Kimmel his spot back, only for him to use his first appearance back to give a big middle finger of a monologue then quit.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 163 points 1 day ago (10 children)

If you cancelled your Disney+ over this, don't reactivate it just because they bring Kimmel back. They can't get away with just a slap on the wrist, they need to lose a whole hand. This needs to hurt them for more than just a week; this needs to be a permanent, scarred gash on their history otherwise we'll be right back here again next week.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

But sending the message that they've irrevocably lost us no matter what they do now is sending a message that they should continue to do whatever the administration says because there's no benefit to changing their path.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 5 points 15 hours ago

No, the benefit to changing their path is that it can still get much worse for them if they don't. As long as the company is run by people with anything left to lose, it can get worse.

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I dunno, man. My mind goes to positive reinforcement for doing the right thing. Disney is a maaaaaaaaaassive fucking corporation with a platform that can reach many many people. If we reward them for fixing their mistakes and punish them for going against societal contracts and moral values, then perhaps they will put out content that reinforces the societal contacts and moral values which helps fight authoritarianism.

Money is what they care about, not values, but even if they are spreading the values we want just because of money then they are still spreading the values we want. We need platforms that can at least even pretend supporting our narratives in the sea of right wing propaganda.

[–] username123@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

They’ve already been a really shitty corporation. They helped put us here. Getting Kimmel back is too small of a win.

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 2 points 15 hours ago

Disney is a maaaaaaaaaassive fucking corporation with a platform that can reach many many people.

Exactly why they don't need positive reinforcement, IMO. How do you reward one who already has everything?

[–] DNS@discuss.online 47 points 1 day ago

Once you bend the knee to fascists, that makes you a fascist forever. Disney caving in due to the public doesn't mean they're sorry.

People need to get off the mouse's dick and start pirating their content if you can't live without it.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Really surprised how many people here still had subscriptions.

I don’t shop at massive corporations if I can help it and most of the time I can find elsewhere, even if it costs me more.

I only have subscriptions for:

  • VPN
  • Plex
  • Apple TV because I used to work there and have it free until next year.
[–] MummysLittleBloodSlut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh God delete your post before the Jellyfhiles show up

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair I use Jellyfin myself. Plex is for friends and family.

[–] Mailloche@lemmy.ca 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Bought plex lifetime membership in 2015 else I'd be on Jelly I'm sure.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m not gonna be reactivating their shit. I am perfectly comfortable hoisting my Jolly Roger again if I want to see some Star Wars content they come out with.

[–] modus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (4 children)

FYI, you can watch late night TV programs like Kimmel for free over the air with an antenna in most cities.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t actually like kimmel’s show - it’s the principle of the matter, for me.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 10 points 23 hours ago

FYI, ota stations were the driving force behind the cancellation. See if your local station is owned by Nexstar or Sinclair.

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[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 18 hours ago

Ethical piracy

Absolutely, the boycott needs to keep on going since this apparently is all Iger can understand.

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[–] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

If Kimmel or his protestors were authentically real about this they wouldn't go back to any of them.

[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I want to support good behavior. If they go back to supporting literally acknowledging reality, I'll return.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Ever seen that employee that got fired illegally and was rehired to prevent lawsuits? They become untouchable. Only instance I've seen personally was a Sears employee that woke from a 2 wk coma to find out she had been fired and thus her insurance was cancelled. Sears gave her backpay, a raise, three weeks of paid vacation for recovery, and pretty much let her just do her job without much criticism until she retired. She could have had more but she was a very kind and honest woman (sadly she passed about 10 years ago).

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Mickey Mouse is in the public domain. So is Minnie. We can make them say whatever we want.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Maybe just dub charlie kirk over it saying hateful things and spread that around

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

With muzzled commentary. Not gonna work.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

I’m sure he would have already if he didn’t have his staff to think about.

It’s hard to take a moral high ground when you end up leaving several dozen people out in the dust. Whether he genuinely cares for them (and I’m sure most people like at least some of their co-workers) or it would just be bad PR, walking away and leaving them with nothing probably won’t mesh with any message he’d be trying to send.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I meant quits ABC. He could start another show and hire everyone back. He has the means to do it, and plenty of people would watch it.

Starts another show where? Paramount's not an option for the same reasons they canned Colbert. Doubt WB would take him with the rumors that they are looking to sell out as well. He could go to an indie like Dropout, but that means a smaller scale production and no way he can hire everyone back.

The problem with media consolidation is that it limits options.

[–] unphazed@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I mean they did the podcast to pay their staffs during the strike, so yeah.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

If the far right can stand up an independent production company and make a go at it, why can’t everyone else do the same thing?

In the Internet age, it doesn’t really matter if you can’t get broadcast rights on cable or OTA… just stand up a streaming service, get contracts with Akamai and CloudFlare, lease studios in a few major cities (or even work out of garages and have remote audiences, mixed with live shows at random venues… works for youtube influencers), and operate off of a mix of subscriptions, ad placements, and traditional ads from companies who are fed up with what the US government is doing.

All these employees know how to do this stuff; it’s their jobs. Why not work for an employee held company instead and ditch the fear of reprisal/job loss?

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FluxUniversity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago

Thank you for this :)

[–] MisterCurtis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] mpramann@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago

Because the left is not controlling the FCC. And ad revenue on cable TV is still a lot higher than on any internet streaming platform. Financing a show like that through streams is a lot more difficult.

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[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Walt Disney used to attend meetings of the German American Bund. They have a long and deep relationship with fascists. Like many are saying, don't give them your money back if they bring Jimmy back. Hopefully, Jimmy knows how well he could do away from the influences of such people, and he'll say "nah thanks"

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"We can fix it, we can fix it! Balance the head back on the decapitated body and put a scarf around it, nobody'll notice."

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tell me more about how those cancellations won't do anything 🤣🤣🤣

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

No, you see, taking action using the means you have available right now might mean inconveniencing yourself in some way! Better to just keep feeding the machine and fantasize about some Glorious Revolution that will make everything better. It's the Leftist Way.

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