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the great enemy of fascism: liberalism

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[–] godlessworm@hexbear.net 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

name one time when liberals ever defeated fascists lol

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 1 day ago

They defeat the fascist scourge of homeless tent encampments that make moderately well off local residents feel uncomfortable

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You don’t need to be a liberal to be against authoritarianism and the tankies that defend it.

Liberals are authoritarian too, but by rhetorical sleight of hand they call it rules-based international order or market forces

  • Landlord evicts single mother rendering her homeless: Just the way the economy works

  • Maoist peasants rise up against landlords: Horrifying authoritarianism

[–] WilliamA@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

but what about the authoritarian totalitarian stalinist maoist lenninist marxist cultural-marxist collectivized red bureaucratic planned economy KGB censored thought police speech police communist socialist surveillance slave police state dictatorship regime? Huh? What if they take my balls and distribute it?

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[–] AnarchoAnarchist@hexbear.net 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

liberals defeat fascists

Pretty bold to call Stalin a liberal.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago

All those liberals who put a stop to the Palestinian genocide, and definitely didn't smugly support it

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I want an Overton Window so far left that Stalin looks like a liberal...

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

All of the examples are just clips of people saying they don't like liberals. What is the observation to be taken here? These two political positions are opposed to ours and therefore the same?

Liberals are mush brained. Put me in the screenshot. Make sure to keep the justification out.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 84 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both tankies and conservatives are making fun of me for shitting my pants, they must be exactly the same berdly-smug

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

le-monkespeech-side-l-1 The crushing burden of being ontologically correct is almost too much to bear

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

A large number of Americans genuinely believe politics is a one-dimensional axis which runs from infinity Conservative to infinity Liberal. Therefore, if you are shitting on Liberals you must be right-wing. This is pretty deeply baked in. Political polling institutions which are ostensibly staffed by political scientists often frame the left simply as "very liberal." Television political coverage does more or less the same thing. Orgs like DSA, if mentioned, are portrayed as very liberal. Communism is used only as an epithet, but is functionally interchangeable with Liberalism. Non-affiliated voters are universally described as "independents," which are universally assumed to be somewhere in-between Liberal and Conservative (never outside). This is also why the solution to every political issue is framed in terms of dialog and meeting in the middle. This is the only thing which is even possible under this paradigm. To resist compromise is to be divisive. Division is bad, against the rules, and means you want to destroy The System ("Democracy," which is good).

Then you have the smart-asses who learned about the Political Compass website sometime after 9-11 and think they're Machiavelli because they understand there are actually two axes (with Margaret Thatcher and Joseph Stalin in the same corner).

Our political education is really fucking bad.

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[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 80 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Liberals defeat fascism by establishing a student loan debt forgiveness program for Pell Grant recipients who start a business that operates for three years in disadvantaged communities

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fascists are the foot soldiers of liberalism used to crush leftists.

Libs are so convinced of their war propaganda that they think they actually did anything.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean, they came in at the last 15 minutes and took all the credit. That's something I guess?

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

-WW2

-LGBTQ rights

-Worker's rights

-Civil Rights.

I am sensing a patternsoviet-hmm

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 21 points 1 day ago

Genocide apologia and deleting comments addressing it is doing something.

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

goat is a cryptofascist

[–] GeckoChamber@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This person is doing this rhetorical trick really incompetently, I could easily find worse-sounding and less disjointed quotes from here

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Yeah this is the "Zionist or Nazi"^[same-picture] thing but with anti-communism instead

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

WHO SAID IT?

  1. I wish some things were different from how they are.

  2. Hi.

  3. The sky is blue.

  4. I love [spoiler].

  5. I'm getting kinda hungry.

Can't tell, can you? This proves every person/group is the same as every other person/group.

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm getting kinda hungry.

Clearly this is a tankie because communism is when no food.

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[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

liberals defeat fascists

ASDOIFUHASEKJFNSDFABIKULHNVCLKÇJMNAEISOUHFNAIWOEUHNFIAUDNJBOIUJ I FUCKING CAN'T LMAO get a load of this

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Anything is possible when you lie

[–] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You know what? Maybe we should do a liberal vs fascist one.

The libs provided plenty of material during the last election run lol.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been tempted to, as soon as it's about "foreign policy" they converge

[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

You could even just do Churchill vs [self-identified] fascists and it'd be pretty tough

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[–] purpleworm@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I wish that liberals learned about WWII

[–] dragongloss@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Liberals understanding of WWII is: Hitler was bad, good guy America swooped in and saved the day, the end.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Hitler was bad, good guy America swooped in and saved the day by nuking Japan, the end.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

150,000-250,000 civilian casualties

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Hitler and Stalin were best friends and teamed up to take over the world, until Private Ryan and his Band of Brothers invaded Normandy and put a stop to it

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[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I found these actually pretty easy to tell apart. Do liberals actually find these viewpoints similar?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 67 points 1 day ago

Online liberals can't even provide a functional definition of their own ideology, on top of being political and historical illiterates, their entire worldview is idiosyncratic and random

One minute they're cheering on genocide, the next they're waxing poetic about the virtues of civility, they have no learned ability to discern political distinction

They worship power and will overlay their random jumble of opinions with whatever signals the establishment media is pumping out at the moment

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really don't like to reduce it all as people with reading/critical thinking problems, however theres a lot who can't escape from the team red vs team blue dynamic and this really shows it

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[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago

Lmao they had to spoiler tag parts of two of the quotes, that's not how these games are supposed to work

[–] gayspacemarxist@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

These liberals who "can't tell socialists apart from conservatives" are clearly crypto-fascists. The solution to fascism is obvious to them because it just means assimilation into what they see as a neutral apolitical project: the American Empire.

I see this split as an echo of the conflict between Yankee capitalists and Confederate slavers. They both dream of empire, but one is much better at diffusing their use of force so it seems like an inevitably instead of a specific policy choice.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

Is goat still putting exclamation marks at the end of their sentences whenever they're malding behind the screen?

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Liberals defeat fascists in the marketplace of ideas

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

liberals defeating fascism by enabling it until it self-destructs 😎

[–] alexei_1917@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Accelerationism! Just enable Hitler til he shoots himself! It totally worked once! (Ignore the Eastern Front. Don't look at the communists behind the curtain.)

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

Liberals defeat fascists by dislike brigading them on Lemmy not-listening

They will still make the government mandated condolences for Uberfascist Mouthpiece so they don't get rounded up in the camps though

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Winner gets a random steam game!

The game is Ready or Not

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because nonduality is totally alien to Westerners, good luck understanding dialectics when the world only exists in rigid boxes, and the only dialectics understood is Fichtean triplicity that doesn't show the whole picture. Ignorance makes it all easier to divide us.

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[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago

Please genie from the magic lamp give me the same free time as this goat weirdo.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

EZ, hexbears are happy a nazi died and conservatives are very very mad

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

Liberals famously defeated fascism in 2024, you right.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

oh god not that goat shithead

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[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

It looks like ketchup. it tastes like ketchup, but brother it ain’t ketchup!

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