No. If I add any more requirements for what I need from a phone I'll go from 1 option to zero.
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What's your one option btw?
Carrier pigeons.
They also don't work underwater.
Carrier salmon.
XCover 6 Pro
Well, it already has IP68 anyways so you got that covered :D
Allegedly so. Looking at that rubber seal behind the flimsy back cover doesn't inspire much confidence however so I'll keep treating it as if that rating doesn't exist.
I don't really look for "this one's rated to 20 meters but this one only 10" I just want to see a water resistance rating of some kind. Which, it is my understanding the Galaxy Folds don't have.
My phone will be in my pocket during five years of sudden rain storms, sweat, washing cars, fixing sinks etc. It needs to be able to survive getting dunked in a bucket of water. I'm not taking it diving, but also my chauffeur isn't going to hold an umbrella while I climb into the limousine.
Folds have water ratings but no (or worse) dust ratings. So you can use them in the rain but be careful in a beach, wood shop, etc.
The first number in the rating is dust resistance, and the second is water resistance. So an IP 48 phone (new Samsung folds) has the same water resistance but worse dust resistance than an IP 68 phone (e.g. S25). IP X8 means there is no dust resistance but it is water resistant. IP 6X would be the other way around.
I am a woodworker, my phone also needs to survive being completely submerged in sanding dust.
I don’t care for the number and just go by what they say it will endure, but absolutely. As the owner of a toddler it’s saved the day on as number of occasions.
Yes, outdoor work and phones are expensive.
Yes. It has saved my bacon at least once (went down a water slide into a swimming pool forgetting it was in my pocket.) I need all the help I can get keeping my phone alive.
Do you?
Yes. I'm not too demanding about it but I want my phone to survive being soaked in rain or a washing with clean water.
Bonus points if I can take it into the sea, but I never had a phone for which I was confident it could survive salty water.
I did back in the day. Now everything is IP67 or whatever's the most common one. It's honestly a crapshoot, my Xperia Z3 died from just being in the shower room while I showered, nowhere near the water but vaguely steamy in there.
I accidentally flushed, yes - flushed my Pixel 1 XL down the toilet and it was fine (it swam up).
Absolutely, I don’t want to worry about water damage, I also often just wash the phone while washing my hands, especially during flu-season.
I also often just wash the phone while washing my hands
I did that often around covid, water got in the supposedly IP68 water resistance anyways after doing that for a few months.
I'd consider their claims to be exaggerated.
If theu say its "water submersible" treat it as just protection against light splashes, if its just "water repellant", don't trust that near water at all. Expect less than their claims.
If you used soap, that could be why. Soap can deteriorate the rubber gaskets and adhesives that keep the ingress protection together.
Yes. I use my phone in rain/snow and boats all the time plus it's nice to be able to use it in sauna also
I feel like that defeats the purpose of sauna a bit...
But anyway, I thought heat rating was a different metric entirely?
Sauna is a place where you either chat with other people or sit with your thoughts. It's blasphemy to bring your phone in there.
Sauna? Bruh you're really pushing the limits of the water resistance, its water resistant, not water + heat resistant (rubber gaskets are gonna fall apart with the steamy hot air constantly)
Yes. I have three young children, I need my phone to be waterproof.
Yes. I've never had a bad liquid incident, but I don't want my phone to be one spilled drink or dropped-into-toilet-or-puddle away from being fried.
No. But I would love a replaceable battery.
Samsung Galaxy XCover series does both.
Sadly, Samsung doesn't allow bootloader unlocks... so yea its a hard pass for me 🤷♂️ (also, spec to price ratio is horrible)
Same for me, locked bootloader is basically useless. Fortunately, from 2027 batteries must be replaceable in the EU. I guess it may have an impact on other regions in the world as well.
Yup. Its not a deal breaker, but I try to find at least some options that have a rating and consider if its worth the other tradeoffs.
I don't bother with the exact ratings, but it has to be water resistant. If you're researching phone options, open a tab in desktop view and go to Versus.
Yep. Non-negotiable. Not only do I live in a very rainy place, but I have uses for this stuff that require getting splashed A LOT very often for other reasons.
No, they tend to be good enough to have in a pocket while sweating in light rain which is the worst I'll put them through.
Yes. Have exclusively used rugged phones for past ~10 years. Mostly Cat (RIP), now Doogee S96. My phone is exposed to a lot of particulate matter, metal fragments, sawdust, etc. It needs to withstand fall damage on hard surfaces. The IP rating indicates it's resistance to anything entering the case, including water.
Totally, I use my phone to play music while in the shower. I also do a lot of work outside, work that doesn’t stop if it starts raining.
No.
I still treat it as if it was from 2014
Only that there is one. I don’t expect my phone to get wet but I do want it to survive everyday life.
Supposedly the Apple Watch is fine to go swimming with. I’m happy to see that feature, as confidence I can wash my hands without ruining my watch
I pay attention to the fact that it has one that will let it survive a drop into water.
I take it with me too the beach. Between the sand in the air and bringing it into the water it's nice to know it'll be fine. Also, when it gets dirty I can just wash it.
Yes and you should (good IP rating also means better hardware and assembly quality). I was using 2nd hand (refurbished) samsung, 3 months later it just failed because of summer, rain, sweat ...
Yes, but I also get into a rage about manufacturers being dicks about it. People by and large don't seem to understand the IP rating scale is in fact two largely-unrelated scales, and companies slapping IP ratings on their products use that in what I feel are underhanded ways.
The values IPx1-IPx6 correspond to varying levels of resistance against directed streams of water. IPx7-IPx9 are degrees of resistance to submersion. The latter does not imply the former, not even a little bit.
It is in theory entirely possible to build a device that could withstanding being put in the bottom of a swimming pool that's being slowly filled with water, but failed from the higher pressure of a small amount of water falling on it from a certain direction.
But you still see phones listed just as "IP68", which tells you nothing. The better manufacturers will explicitly write the likes of "IP65/IP68"; showing that it reaches the 5 rating of "water jets 12.5litre/minute" but not the 6 rating of "powerful water jets 100litre/minute", but also IP67 "immersion <1 metre / <30 minutes" and IP68 "immersion >1 metre / >30 minutes".
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_code#Second_digit:_Liquid_ingress_protection)