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[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 62 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AOSP

Android Open Source Project

look inside

not open source

mfw

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You can still use AOSP to make your own phone, but you'll just have to built your own apps too, since eventually, all of google play apps aren't gonna work on degoogled Android.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

Not a big deal, considering that FOSSIFY project offers all the basics you'd need for a degoogled phone: call app, messaging, contacts, calculator, calendar, gallery, etc. F-droid also has a good selection of apps, though most people, me included, will still need whatsapp one way or another. At least that thing doesn't need any of Google's "essential" apps.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

you'll just have to built your own apps too

We are well on our way.

I was confused before I made the switch. So many of the most useful kinds of apps weren't maintained anymore by anyone on the Google Play store. I had this surreal feeling that the app ecosystem was getting worse every year.

And then I installed F-Droid and figured out where all of my favorite app developers went. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's so much bullshit with smartphones now that make them a pain to use, I'm honestly considering at this point to just get a flipphone and buy separate devices for the things it can do. Get a camera, MP3 player, and portable DVD player and live life the way people did 20 years ago.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Oh, I totally agree, dude! I was thinking the same idea for a while too

  • Camera problem – You have the best camera on your device, but sometimes people don't even set the best settings lol. Plus, you've taken tons of photos with your phone camera that you never look at, so what's the point? A small camera is a great idea or polaroid.

  • Mp3 - I don't have use Spotify or some streaming music platfrom. Because I listen to specific random songs that's not alwasys available on Spotify etc. So I just download my songs with yt-dlp on mp3 files!

  • Portable DVD player - I personally just download my videos (youtubers or movies) and then watch on my phone.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've started to get more selective of my photos and even began printing them, sometimes gifting to friends. Now I actually end up looking at them more often.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago

Oh hey that's cool! Do you print them like in those machine in shops or at home?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Holy crap that dude aged like milk in 3 years time

[–] Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 206 points 3 days ago (18 children)

I am in dire need of a true Linux Phone

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 58 points 2 days ago (5 children)

they court the nerds with cool tech, then ditch them whenever their shit takes off and the nerds are an irrelevant minority.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Tale as old as time.

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[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

holy crap this is so true. i miss twrp

[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Don't forget rock solid app gets an unexpected update 3 years later and now is jammed with ads and offers an ad free subscription at $14/week

[–] CidVicious@sh.itjust.works 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah app purchases sure went to shit, didn't they? Sorry turns out buying an app one time for a small fee isn't good enough, we need you to buy it again every month.

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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 91 points 3 days ago (3 children)

CyanogenMod, how I loved thee

[–] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The golden age of custom ROMs was truly a technological Renaissance. Magical time.

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There are phosh based phones and over time more people will hopefully switch to them, use them, and work on making them better. Phosh-based phones are currently are not as usable as something like GOS, but with Google challenging itself to become more and more enshitified in the interest in marginal tiny profit gains (even if it destroys their brand over the long term) nerds needs to band together prepare for an alternative. Part of this is going to be advocating for Apps that work in Linux mobile Phosh environments and just refusing to use containerized apks and part of it is going to be people doing what they can to support native linux phone apps that work well in Phosh.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

off topic me using android 2015

I remember when I was younger is rooted phone and installed freedom apk. This app was awesome and allowed you to buy stuff from Google Play for free. Does anyone remember this app? I always thought that logo was really weird.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

iOS jailbreaking used to be incredible too.

I guess it might still be for those who slipped into the “window” to do it, but I have no clue what Cydia looks like these days.

[–] LucidNightmare@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Cydia is practically dead, replaced by Sileo or Zebra, and most tweaks are paid now.

I miss when people did stuff for a hobby or for fun. Literally everything wants your money these days it seems.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's not like everything (or rather every dev) necessarily wants your money. We're forced to monetize even our hobbies in an attempt to live a worthwhile life. It's a cancerous system infecting everything and everyone.

To develop great FOSS software without the need of monetization is an enormous privilege.

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[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 64 points 3 days ago (27 children)

i cant wait for mobile Linux to be ready, I will switch in a heartbeat.

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[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 39 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's happening, I'm finally getting nostalgic from tech memes. The days on xda forums and IRC. Thankfully IRC is still alive. Xda seems to be dying to telegram and Google's enshittification

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[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

As gross as Google's endless enshittification is, I blame the consumers for most of it. People vote with their wallets and they've been voting for the locked up walled garden crap option for the past two decades, especially in the US, where there is literally a culture of "ew, you have a green message bubble!" and chasing a status symbol is way more important than things like actual ownership over your devices, digital freedom and customization. And funnily enough, Google's hardware sales have started increasing steadily since they've started copying Apple's shitty model.

[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 49 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Ah yes, the consumers having no real practical alternative between apple and android means they support all the bullshit Google is forcing onto android ^/s^

How do you propose I vote with my wallet when using something like grapheneOS requires buying a pixel?

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 16 points 2 days ago (5 children)

GraphineOS is the epitome of paying against your values then using foss without giving back.

Murena sells phones with e/os already installed, and there seems to be others too where you can buy a phone: iodé , jolla, pine64, pureos,

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

Even with Graphene, it's increasingly likely that it'll be dead to new Pixels in the coming years. And I say that as someone posting this from a Pixel 9 running Graphene.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, I too blame the overworked and underpaid population that were never given a real education besides a dysfunctional and authoritarian public school system which contains at least 50% pro-status-quo propaganda and omit real useful information, and teaches kids to obey teachers and the school admin, and subjugate their free will. /s

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

This is cruel, now I feel like some kind of criminal. Who knew that the most dangerous criminal is an ordinary consumer who wants freedom...

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

For those wondering what happened, the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) launched in 2007, but started decoupling major parts of the project from the main in 2012 instead forcing them to update through Google Play store and over time restricting access to the codebase before just this year deciding to shut down the ASOP.

In their defence, they've also made lots of changes to make android compatible with more devices and to make third party stores work better, but they've just as often made changes that intentionally harmed development of alternative android-based OS.

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[–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I remember this "don't be evil" slogan. But what was it from?

[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Wait what ? Side loading blocked

Well it was a good run, time to look into custom roms…

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Bootloader is blocked so no custom roms. You will take whatever shit they are slinging and like it.

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

I am very happy on GrapheneOS. Even in terms of flashing it was much nicer experience than what you had to go through back in the days

[–] Fabian@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 days ago

I just hate that so much. The openness was one of the two reasons why I got an android phone. The other one being the price.

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