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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 6 points 16 hours ago

Holy crap that dude aged like milk in 3 years time

[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

holy crap this is so true. i miss twrp

[–] TeamTeddy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's so much bullshit with smartphones now that make them a pain to use, I'm honestly considering at this point to just get a flipphone and buy separate devices for the things it can do. Get a camera, MP3 player, and portable DVD player and live life the way people did 20 years ago.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Oh, I totally agree, dude! I was thinking the same idea for a while too

  • Camera problem – You have the best camera on your device, but sometimes people don't even set the best settings lol. Plus, you've taken tons of photos with your phone camera that you never look at, so what's the point? A small camera is a great idea or polaroid.

  • Mp3 - I don't have use Spotify or some streaming music platfrom. Because I listen to specific random songs that's not alwasys available on Spotify etc. So I just download my songs with yt-dlp on mp3 files!

  • Portable DVD player - I personally just download my videos (youtubers or movies) and then watch on my phone.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

I've started to get more selective of my photos and even began printing them, sometimes gifting to friends. Now I actually end up looking at them more often.

There are phosh based phones and over time more people will hopefully switch to them, use them, and work on making them better. Phosh-based phones are currently are not as usable as something like GOS, but with Google challenging itself to become more and more enshitified in the interest in marginal tiny profit gains (even if it destroys their brand over the long term) nerds needs to band together prepare for an alternative. Part of this is going to be advocating for Apps that work in Linux mobile Phosh environments and just refusing to use containerized apks and part of it is going to be people doing what they can to support native linux phone apps that work well in Phosh.

[–] bluesheep@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago (1 children)

AOSP

Android Open Source Project

look inside

not open source

mfw

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

You can still use AOSP to make your own phone, but you'll just have to built your own apps too, since eventually, all of google play apps aren't gonna work on degoogled Android.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 4 hours ago

Not a big deal, considering that FOSSIFY project offers all the basics you'd need for a degoogled phone: call app, messaging, contacts, calculator, calendar, gallery, etc. F-droid also has a good selection of apps, though most people, me included, will still need whatsapp one way or another. At least that thing doesn't need any of Google's "essential" apps.

[–] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you'll just have to built your own apps too

We are well on our way.

I was confused before I made the switch. So many of the most useful kinds of apps weren't maintained anymore by anyone on the Google Play store. I had this surreal feeling that the app ecosystem was getting worse every year.

And then I installed F-Droid and figured out where all of my favorite app developers went. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For those wondering what happened, the Android Open Source Project (ASOP) launched in 2007, but started decoupling major parts of the project from the main in 2012 instead forcing them to update through Google Play store and over time restricting access to the codebase before just this year deciding to shut down the ASOP.

In their defence, they've also made lots of changes to make android compatible with more devices and to make third party stores work better, but they've just as often made changes that intentionally harmed development of alternative android-based OS.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

To add to this, the only redeeming quality of Android is that the Google Play Store developer account currently only costs a $25 one time fee, meanwhile the Apple App Store costs $99 per year. Google also seems a bit more permissive with its apps. You can still use an adblocker extension when you download firefox, even torrent clients are there. Apple doesn't really allow alternative browsers, every browser is just Safari reskinned, no extensions, absolutely zero usable torrent clients whatsoever. And, there aren't really any Tor browsers on iOS (probably because of the same reason why iOS browsers have no extensions), those that do exist seem very badly built, not officially made by the Tor Project, and some even require you to pay for it (which make sense given the $99 yearly fee).

But you know, its capitalism and the current pricing could soon change... 👀

(Edited phrasing for claification)

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 2 points 21 hours ago

While you're not wrong there for the best part: Safari does allow extensions, and has done for a few years now. Functionally, I've not noticed much of a difference between Safari and IronFox on my GOS phone.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Capitalism is never going away unless people build a system to redistribute wealth and so far they're doing the opposite lately.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean that the pricing of the dev account could soon change because of the fact that we live under a capitalist society, not saying that capitalism is itself is going away.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)

they court the nerds with cool tech, then ditch them whenever their shit takes off and the nerds are an irrelevant minority.

[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Tale as old as time.

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[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

off topic me using android 2015

I remember when I was younger is rooted phone and installed freedom apk. This app was awesome and allowed you to buy stuff from Google Play for free. Does anyone remember this app? I always thought that logo was really weird.

[–] eva@discuss.online 3 points 22 hours ago

Never seen this before. It is really weird.

[–] Firnin@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

I never heard of freedom APK, but Lucky Patcher worked like a charm!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 7 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Wait what ? Side loading blocked

Well it was a good run, time to look into custom roms…

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bootloader is blocked so no custom roms. You will take whatever shit they are slinging and like it.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

Wait, really??

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Bruh, wtf are we gonna next year once it's fully locked down? 😡

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Where is the st. iGNUcius of phones ?

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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

This is cruel, now I feel like some kind of criminal. Who knew that the most dangerous criminal is an ordinary consumer who wants freedom...

[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As gross as Google's endless enshittification is, I blame the consumers for most of it. People vote with their wallets and they've been voting for the locked up walled garden crap option for the past two decades, especially in the US, where there is literally a culture of "ew, you have a green message bubble!" and chasing a status symbol is way more important than things like actual ownership over your devices, digital freedom and customization. And funnily enough, Google's hardware sales have started increasing steadily since they've started copying Apple's shitty model.

[–] Pazuzu@midwest.social 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Ah yes, the consumers having no real practical alternative between apple and android means they support all the bullshit Google is forcing onto android ^/s^

How do you propose I vote with my wallet when using something like grapheneOS requires buying a pixel?

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 day ago

Even with Graphene, it's increasingly likely that it'll be dead to new Pixels in the coming years. And I say that as someone posting this from a Pixel 9 running Graphene.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

GraphineOS is the epitome of paying against your values then using foss without giving back.

Murena sells phones with e/os already installed, and there seems to be others too where you can buy a phone: iodé , jolla, pine64, pureos,

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, I too blame the overworked and underpaid population that were never given a real education besides a dysfunctional and authoritarian public school system which contains at least 50% pro-status-quo propaganda and omit real useful information, and teaches kids to obey teachers and the school admin, and subjugate their free will. /s

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Doesn't work that way. We should stop attacking each other and start attacking the people actually responsible for this nonsense. Apple both was the first for gluing the phone together and removing the headphone port. Every other device manufacturer follows suit such that people cannot choose. Samsung was publicly mocking Apple for locking the bootloader and guess what? Which Samsung phone can now freely install any operating system? That's right, none of the more modern ones.

Only the new battery initiative from the EU which forces manufacturers to make batteries normally replaceable again, will change that in 2027. Short version is, if there isn't any sort of bigger power forcing them to do something, they will refuse to, as long as screwing you makes more money. And in most cases, it does.

[–] HarryOru@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 hours ago

It works exactly that way. The reason other manufacturers follow suit when Apple does something stupid or anti-consumer is because people buy Apple regardless. When Samsung, as a corporation, see that their main competitor has cut costs by taking out features, and it's still leading the market, there is absolutely no reason for them to not eventually do the same.

Everyone who's replied to me so far conveniently talks about what they can do today while ignoring that my comment is about how we got here over the past two decades. Yes, it's true that people don't really queue for phones anymore, and it's true that we don't have other options now. But when we did have the options, people still preferred eating up the crap one with gusto, and usually for very shallow reasons. If you're one of the few who didn't, then you have no reason to feel called out by my comment.

Regulation like in the EU still requires people to vote politically for representatives that take these things into consideration, which again, clearly isn't something that happens in the US. No "bigger power" is going to simply come out of nowhere to protect the consumers' interests if the consumers themselves don't give a shit about their own rights in the first place.

I understand that it's a sad and tough reality to accept, but no amount of screaming at corpos on Lemmy or Reddit is going to undo the damage. And installing GrapheneOS on a Pixel is not the moral flex people here think it is.

[–] Tyr_Raidho_Othala@reddthat.com 202 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I am in dire need of a true Linux Phone

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[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's happening, I'm finally getting nostalgic from tech memes. The days on xda forums and IRC. Thankfully IRC is still alive. Xda seems to be dying to telegram and Google's enshittification

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 59 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (18 children)

iOS jailbreaking used to be incredible too.

I guess it might still be for those who slipped into the “window” to do it, but I have no clue what Cydia looks like these days.

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[–] waterSticksToMyBalls@lemmy.world 115 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Don't forget rock solid app gets an unexpected update 3 years later and now is jammed with ads and offers an ad free subscription at $14/week

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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 89 points 1 day ago (4 children)

CyanogenMod, how I loved thee

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