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Breaking news (if true).
I was looking at a tweet that quoted her, refreshed the page, and saw:
This Post is from an account that no longer exists.
Edit: Looks real.
https://xcancel.com/contrapoints
@contrapoints
This account doesn’t exist
Try searching for another.
Is deletion permanent?
Edit2: No. 
She'll be back, twitter addicts can't stay off the tweets for long
Exactly what I was going to say. She loves the drama and attention too much, she was just mad that people were treating her like the zionist piece of shit that she is.
To be fair shes not a zionist, just a liberal narcissist. All of her politics revolve around her and her own victimizations and prejudices and the ability to exploit that without ever challenging anything fundamental about the world.
The 2 state solution position is just "I am a zionist but also think Palestinians should have a state, I will ignore the fact this is futile and impossible and that it will get Palestinians slowly killed as has been occurring for the last 70 years". She is a zionist.
haven't various palestinian organizations said 2-state was acceptable at various times, including hamas?
It has become increasingly clear (has been bleedingly obvious since the Oslo accords tbf) that Palestinian sovereignty is something that Israel won’t even entertain, much less a return of all their illegal settlements and 1967 borders. What the two state solution really means, unless we are fundamentally changing Israel, is the same thing as Bantustans or Native American reservations. The only real alternative that doesn’t at least involve ethnic cleansing is a single secular pluralistic state.
China, Cuba and the Soviet Union are also Zionist according to this definition (NK would be the sole non-Zionist AES state unless I’m mistaken), so it is a strange thing to latch on to. I don’t think Contra really cares and two state solution is just the generic answer.
yeah 2-state is an easy way for liberals to not have to question their worldview
Anarchists and Posadists want a no state solution.
I would say there is a difference between an official diplomatic policy and the stated viewpoints of a netizen. Netizens have more room to espouse radical policy than governments. It's why DPRK who has the least relations with other countries also tends to espouse more radical views in their international statements.
But yes, countries should at this point start recognising that the 2-state solution is dead. But that would require a broader shift in international political consciousness towards more radical anti-imperialism.
It was seen as a compromise by some organizations eventually. Never a good solution or even one that would be lasting. People flocked to Hamas because Hamas continued to fight. When Oslo proved hollow and the two states meant what they had always meant, people saw who was still fighting and sided with them.
I thought her views were in line with AOC and Bernie, i.e. liberal Zionism.
"Israel has a right to exist." = Zionist
I suppose, but she has a lot of Zionist friends, and clearly supports their actions and opinions, so she's functionally a zionist, even if she is just doing it to feed her persecution complex.
Of course, shes a liberal. She supports everything the way it is, but she would never call herself a zionist. She doesnt believe in anything that much, when or if one day the zionist project fails and it truly becomes unpopular to the hegemony of the US ruling class, she will array herself as having been correct the whole time. One day, they will all have been against this. Liberalism can only ever be correct at the right time, never the wrong time, or else it wouldnt be correct. And then she will write a 4 hour long video about how she was right, if the left had just listened, how she was unfairly lambasted for champagne with Hilary, for her twitter takes, for her, its all about her. 4 hours and she wont center the Palestinians.
Her only politics are wanting to live comfortably as a rich trans woman. If the GOP immediately dropped the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and policy, she would have absolutely no problem with them.
For the short time I used Twitter (a matter of a few months), she had an inactive/deleted account the whole time. I felt like I was missing out cause people would kinda talk about her inactive account on there. Obviously she's been active the last few years and I obviously wasn't missing anything.
Anyway yeah account deletion on Twitter is rarely permanent. Probably would be healthier I for her if she did delete it permanently, though. True for everyone, haha
Oh, so it's not automatically permanent.
She'll go to BlueSky
I'm guessing she'd have to start fresh with no subscribers. Would be a bit interesting to compare the accounts that subscribed to new vs old.
Would probably suit her as the people that would follow her again are going to be the most online and dramatic, distilling down all her online interactions into the most dramatic form possible.
So her deciding to sneer at a NYC DSA meeting from a year ago for being cringe and getting dunked on for it seems to have been the final straw.
Is this the beginning of the Contra Redditor arc?
next up, appears on tucker carlson's show with "why i left the left" material. goes on to campaign for newsom.
stop making me remember breadtube pls thanks
how are the spores going to get into your lungs without repeated exposure to the moldy breadtube
I guess her long post didn't go as well as she thought it would. Much simpler and easier to say "Abolish Israel"
Her long post effectively established that her position is that she is a zionist. She would've been better off keeping her mouth shut lmao
Our long national nightmare is over!
Liberalism is no more, folks
Even if it's only for a little bit, it's nice to know this shit gets to her
Bullying works
She's running.
Good
Hah, get fucked Nat! As TheDeed says, she'll be back, she's genuinely and sincerely addicted to her social media, she just needs to take a break from people pointing out that she's a wretched piece of shit.
Critical support to contra points in her struggle with Twitter addiction.
Genuinely the best thing she can do for herself at this point
By god, someone has actually logged off.
Like actual deleted or just deactivated?
Apparently, deleting your account is practically a deactivation until you refrain from logging in for 30 days, at which point it becomes permanently deleted.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
So she will only be truly gone if she can resist logging back in for the next few weeks. There is no way that's going to happen. 
Knowing Elon it's probably like 3 days now but if you are special and he wants you back they can hey get it all back from the NSA cold storage vault.
Good for her tbh.
If this is a permanent deletion, someone could steal the username?
Doubtful. Most sites don't work like that.
I made the mistake of going to her subreddit just now. "Why does she need to make a video on Gaza?" and then people drop takes like this
Hahah 
