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Democrats with an eye on 2028 reject some parts of liberal orthodoxy - WaPo

Some presidential prospects have embraced “Sister Souljah moments” that demonstrate their independence.

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For many Democrats, these declarations of independence echo Bill Clinton’s public slap at the rap artist Sister Souljah in 1992, an event that came to epitomize moments when a politician pointedly distances themselves from the party’s liberal base.

Sister Souljah, commenting on rioters in Los Angeles that year, had told The Washington Post, “If Black people kill Black people every day, why not have a week and kill White people? … So if you’re a gang member and you would normally be killing somebody, why not kill a White person?”

In an appearance before the Rainbow Coalition, a civil rights group, Clinton said Souljah’s comments were “filled with the kind of hatred that you do not honor.” She responded by saying her comments had been intended to convey the mindset of a Los Angeles gang member, not to advocate killing anyone. But Clinton generated headlines for distinguishing himself from the image that many voters had of Democrats as left-wing and countercultural.

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When Shapiro appeared on Nugent’s podcast to tout his success in ending a Sunday hunting ban, he framed it as a blow for “freedom” but also made it clear that he was not claiming to be a hunter. “I want to be brutally honest with you here. I’m not a hunter myself. I don’t pretend to be,” Shapiro said on the podcast. “But I have so much respect for our commonwealth’s hunters and sportsmen, and I thought this was the right thing to do.”

[Nugent] rewarded Shapiro with praise likely to resonate with his listeners. “You are a Democrat, but you know what, Governor Josh? You are my blood brother,” Nugent said. A spokesman for Shapiro said the governor works regularly with people he disagrees with on a range of issues, a necessity to get things done in a politically divided state like Pennsylvania.

Shapiro’s appearance with Nugent, the spokesman said, was an opportunity that presented itself after the governor signed the hunting measure, rather than one he sought out.

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Emanuel sat down with Kelly, a staunch conservative. “Unlike some of the loons over on the other side, he’s a centrist,” Kelly said by way of introduction. As Emanuel talked about education, Kelly fired off a series of questions to ferret out his views on trans issues: Should men be in women’s prisons? Should men be on women’s sports teams?

Emanuel said no to each. “As a father of a son and two girls, they are fundamentally physically different,” Emanuel said. “That’s just biology.”

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Trump repeatedly portrayed Harris and other Democrats as un-American and culturally alien, using terms like “vermin,” “Marxist” and “communist.” Many strategists from both parties believe the most successful ad of the campaign was a Trump spot showing Harris supporting gender surgery for prison inmates, punctuated by the tagline, “Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”

“What the Republicans did — wonderfully — was they focused on inflation, they focused on the border and they made the election about that,” Democratic strategist Neil Oxman said. “They said we were too woke and talking about trans stuff and all that crap. And instead of us talking about inflation and the border, we only talked abortion and things that played right into Republicans’ hands. We got caught in the trap. We can’t let that happen again.”

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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

These are the people blue fascists tell me i have to support because the alternative is fascism

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 34 points 5 days ago (1 children)

At best, chuds are going to look at this and say "cool, even the libs are coming around", before immediately voting Republican again.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

before immediately voting Republican again.

They have no choice. They can't own the libs if they vote for them.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago (1 children)

opened the show by handing Newsom a Sig Sauer pistol

timmy-pray

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 22 points 5 days ago

lmao that was exactly what I was just gonna say. Too bad it wasn't a p320 that went off and blew one of their fucking brains out.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I hate these people so much. I hope I can get out of this shithole before I have to endure Vote Blue No Matter Who fascists telling me I have to vote for the Getty billionaire family's puppet Gavin Newsom so he can "sAvE dEmOcRaCy" i.e. kill more homeless people. fuck this

[–] fox@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

“They said we were too woke and talking about trans stuff and all that crap. And instead of us talking about inflation and the border, we only talked abortion and things that played right into Republicans’ hands. We got caught in the trap. We can’t let that happen again.”

Fuck off, anywhere a Democrat won it was by saying they were going to support women's rights and anywhere they lost it was for mealy-mouthed triangulation that pissed off their own voter base and didn't win Republicans because they were going to vote for whoever had an R next to their name regardless

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

True tailism has never been tried.

Tailism can never fail, it can only be failed.

You will certainly not regret doing tailism!

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

It's not real tailism unless it comes from the mensheviks otherwise it's just sparkling reformism

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Didn't they try this run to the center thing last election and it didn't work? You couldn't run on inflation because you were the ones in charge and you refused to distance yourself from Biden.

I also hate how this is just them doing more reacting instead of leading. Instead of saying why abortion is good or trans people are human, they just listen to focus groups and try to seem "with it" to everyone but the increasingly left base of this country.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Didn't they try this run to the center thing last election

You could say this about every election since Reagan. Sometimes it 'works', usually only happening after a conservative absolutely fucked over a huge number of people

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 14 points 5 days ago

Since Nixon, in my estimation.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

It is indeed true that Trump has the best funded secret police force in the history of the world and Trump/GOP are openly attacking science, medicine, education, logic, the climate, and facts themselves. Plus ten million people will lose their healthcare in 2027. That makes it imperative I go on rightwing media and I pretend all that horrible stuff doesn't even exist.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago

run to the center thing last election and it didn't work?

you mean every election since the 70s?

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago
[–] YoSoySnekBoi@kbin.earth 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The US is a one party system: the party of wealth and power. Almost none of our politicians care about anything they tout beyond its ability to keep them in power.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago

The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.

  • Julius Nyerere
[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Isn't sig sauer the one that makes that gun that literally shoots itself because the trigger is like fucked up or something so it takes basically like no pressure to shoot

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

"…instead of us talking about inflation and the border..."

Mother fucker they wouldn't shut the fuck up about the supposed "hypocrisy" regarding the Democrats WANTING to do fascism at the Border but the Republicans obstructing it for months, and they flatly denied the reality of inflation and said we weren't grateful enough for how good the economy was doing in despite of it. The stupid fucks are lying to us about their own incompetence, and then saying they need to do the exact same thing that they apparently didn't already do despite us all having to sit through it for a year.

The worst part is this comment could be equally accurate at any point in the last 16 years.

[–] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 15 points 5 days ago

Trump repeatedly portrayed Harris and other Democrats as un-American and culturally alien, using terms like “vermin,” “Marxist” and “communist.”

well I am very glad to hear that the democrats are going to stop pretending to be anything other than what they are after all this

Many strategists from both parties believe the most successful ad of the campaign was a Trump spot showing Harris supporting gender surgery for prison inmates, punctuated by the tagline, “Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”

lol, even if any of this were true, how many they/them prisoners do people think there could possibly be?

this post probably needs a transphobia cw, maybe something about hunting to conform with the [food] (ie meat) rule?

[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

This shit almost makes me want to become a spite based Republican voter like my father in law, just trying to stick it to the libs

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)

yeah but the thing is you can be a spite based communist instead, which sucks way less

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Doesn’t suck at all in fact.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 14 points 5 days ago

all the losing isn't much fun ngl

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

spite-BASED psl voter 👍

[–] whiskers165@hexbear.net 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For real. Should've been one in 2024, dang hindsight is 20/20

yeah me too. voted jill stein

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I hoped last year would be a watershed moment for 3rd parties in the US. I was wrong sadness

[–] into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

🧞‍♂️ wish granted; jo jorgensen is now the 48th president