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[–] SpaceScotsman@startrek.website 2 points 2 hours ago

I wasn't expecting another "fun" episode. I enjoyed it. The campy awfulness of the old TV set design and costumes was spot on.

Spock-La'an works well, I want to see more of it. It's difficult to find a lot of plot progress in comedy eps, but pushing their relationship forward a bit is nice. I really hope it goes somewhere meaningful, but this being a prequel, I guess just how far it could go is limited, unless they're willing to diverge off canon.

Hollywood AR walls don't hold anything against a holodeck, but we're getting there. It's cases like this that make me think I wouldn't enjoy one for real though, I'd just spend all my time getting paranoid. And did La'an get permission from everyone to use their patterns?

This earlier holodeck is lacking in any kind of true failsafe and is relying on the simulation program alone to not hurt people. Later on the enterprise, they never really figured that out. Scotty should have wrote his notes on safety much bigger than footnotes.

The writing staff must have been using this episode to vent their frustrations of the TV industry. When they were writing it, I wonder if they knew yet they had a confirmed 5 seasons, or if this was written during a hiatus.

I guess the takeaway message from this episode is "you can always rely on those around you". Except when they're holographic murder simulations, then all bets are off.

[–] Stormygeddon@startrek.website 2 points 3 hours ago

The TNG references with the chair gag and wearing jeans BTS really got me.

[–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Uhura speech it was very meta and was really emotional, it was a speech straight from a ST fan, nice writing and performing there Edit: bloopers were hilarious, and with Frakes directing the blooper of "Kirk" doing the Riker manouver was so funny

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 10 hours ago

That was a pretty fun bit of silliness - low-calorie, but it looked like the cast had a good time.

The La'an/Spock storyline is unexpected, but damned if Ethan Peck and Christina Chong don't have chemistry.

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

It's a classic Star Trek storyline but it still checks out. Also love seeing La'an leading the episode

Edit: on further reflection, whilst I enjoyed the episode (all the call backs to TOS vibes were great), I think this shows the weakness of having shorter seasons, in that there's less space (pun intended) for "frivolous" capers like this.

I do love that the staff, be they actors, wardrobe, production, etc don't have an insane routine like the old days but maintain that at least 12-15 episodes per season is a nice compromise

This is something I've been thinking about a lot while I've been rewatching DS9 while listening to The Delta Flyers.

They do have the odd one-off "fun" episode in DS9 - this past week was "Our Man Bashir" which is also a fun holdeck episode, and shares a lot with this episode. But the one off fun shows aren't really needed for DS9 to be funny. What makes DS9 work so well is that they have more episodes to develop character relationships. Once you have that built up, DS9 is able to pack in a lot more humour without even needing one-off comedy episodes, just from the characters riffing off each other.

When you have a limited episode count, like in SNW, that's much harder to do. There is a bit of genial poking at spock's vulcan nature, and some character based humour between the engineering staff, but that's about the extent of it at the moment.

And so as nice as these fun episodes are, it does feel like there's missing opportunities. There is a random line about giving Ortegas the bridge when we know there was character development from the last episode that still needs to be dealt with. And one of the main characters in this episode wasn't even really there, so that's a whole lot more time unspent, and whatever development Spock and La'ans relationship has may end up happening offscreen.

[–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago

that is my only concern as well, in a 10 episode season if already 2 has been on the "frivolous side" there's not much left for actual scifi-exploration stuff.

In the other tv series you had 24 episodes each season, you can go around on 2 or 3 episodes each season with silly stuff that was welcome to change the tone from the more serious episodes, here I'm worried. I liked the episode thou, so I'm complaining, but I liked it.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

Damn. 🥵🔥

EDIT: Did someone turn the heater on. Um… it’s a bit steamy here.

[–] Stormygeddon@startrek.website 1 points 3 hours ago

Same here but my AC is actually broken

[–] Kabutor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, the ending was too hot, and it's not even August yet :P

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 2 points 7 hours ago

Not to mention I get to see THOSE TWO in a week at STLV.

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I have no hope for this series but Frakes is still directing. What’s a fan to do.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Obviously continue to watch something you dislike, despite there being many other things you can do with your life.

[–] rezz@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

But there are four lights!!!

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I’ve entered the mourning phase for Star Trek and have finally stopped watching. Similar to what happened with Doctor Who. Instead of telling good sci fi stories, it’s morphed into “How whacky can we be?” It’s all singing all dancing puppet show hour now.

It doesn’t help that it’s on the “we fire people to please Trump” network.

[–] khaosworks@startrek.website 1 points 16 hours ago