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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

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Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

They should invent a gun that kills everyone in the IOF when you pull the trigger

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It’s a cliche quote but it really feels appropriate now:

Hell is empty and all the devils are here

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Israeli media: An Israeli interceptor missile almost brought down a passenger plane

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[–] artificialset@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

i'm more than a lil tipsy and all i want to post everywhere is how much i wish for the end of israel idf-cool

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

US ammendment condemning hamas failled. Let's see if the original proposal by Arab states passes now

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel media: There is news blackout imposed of a dangerous event on the Gaza Strip border.

Withdrawal of the Israeli forces in Gaza now.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Someone needs to make a Saddam's hiding place meme out of the Israeli tunnels 3d renders.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I take a break for a few days for my mental health and the moment I come back a land invasion is going on

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (8 children)

This whole war would be over tomorrow if all of Gaza just converted to Mormonism.

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (6 children)
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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I've noticed the caricatures of Americans where I live has changed over the years. It used to be a fat, sunburned asshole with cargo shorts and a bucket hat screaming angrily. Women were portrayed as blonde babes showing lots of skin and sleeping with everyone.

Now it's more of an effeminate man who acts stereotypically gay and speaks flamboyantly while flaunting expensive products. American women are depicted as having too much plastic surgery and fillers with an extremely promiscuous attitude.

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[–] StalinistApologist@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

"There were no initial signs of terrorism."

Re: the Maine mass shooting.

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In her address to the UN General Assembly, US ambassador to the UN, Linda Thomas-Greenfield, said that it is “outrageous” the word “Hamas” is not mentioned.

“The Arab ambassadors say that they do not want to make this document political. That is why they say there’s not a need to include the word Hamas in there,” Elizondo said.

The amount of pure hatred I feel towards the U.S. ugh.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Large crowds have gathered in central London for a demonstration in support of the Palestinian people, with tens of thousands expected to take to the streets. A pro-Palestinian rally in London last week drew an estimated 100,000 people, and similar numbers are expected today.

Demonstrations are also planned today in Manchester, England, and in Glasgow.

https://streamable.com/nync08

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/226ea49c-e34e-5cad-9567-4d9dcf7ba382?smid=url-share

[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Al Jazeera:

Gaza right now

Israeli air raids have destroyed hundreds of buildings in the Gaza Strip overnight, the civil defence service in Gaza has said.
“Hundreds of buildings and houses were completely destroyed and thousands of other homes were damaged,” Mahmud Bassal, a spokesman for the Gaza Civil Defence told AFP, adding that the intense bombardments had “changed the landscape” of northern Gaza.

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Al Jazeera:

Gaza residents break into aid centres: UN
Thousands of Gaza residents have broken into warehouses and distribution centres of the United Nations Palestinian Refugee Agency (UNRWA) grabbing flour and “basic survival items”, according to the organisation.
“This is a worrying sign that civil order is starting to break down after three weeks of war and a tight siege on Gaza,” said Thomas White, the director of UNRWA affairs in the Gaza Strip, in a statement.
“People are scared, frustrated and desperate. Tensions and fear are made worse by the cuts in the phones and internet communication lines. They feel that they are on their own, cut off from their families inside Gaza and the rest of the world.
“Supplies on the market are running out while the humanitarian aid coming into the Gaza Strip on trucks from Egypt is insufficient.”
Aid supplies to Gaza have been choked since Israel began bombarding in early October.
On Saturday, Egypt’s Foreign Ministry said “Israeli obstacles” were impeding the prompt delivery of aid through the Rafah crossing.

[–] gregheffley@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

Country Assumes They Are the World’s Morality Arbiter As They Routinely Have Terror Attacks

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 47 points 2 years ago

The final sentence: "WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly."

"I don’t know if they are safe or not": Family members left in dark after communications go down in Gaza

People who have family in Gaza tell CNN they have not been able to contact them after communications went down in the enclave following heavy airstrikes.

Jawwal, the Palestinian telecom company that provides mobile service to the Gaza Strip released a statement Friday night saying "the intense bombardment in the past hour has resulted in the destruction of all remaining international routes connecting Gaza with the outside world" leading to a "complete interruption of telecommunications services".

Said Alhayek, 42, from Las Vegas, said he has not been able to reach his family in Gaza.

“It’s like sitting in the dark not knowing what is going to hit you, I can’t reach them on any medium of communication at this point, I can’t even know if they are okay or not, I don’t know if they are safe or not," Alhayek said. "Also, the fact that they cut off communication, makes us feel as though they are about to do something terrible.” Adli Anwar, 57, who is living in Ottowa, Canada, also said he has no way of communicating with his family.

“I can’t get anything — about three hours ago, we lost all communications, no phones, no internet, nothing. Before it would connect, about 80% of the time, and now it’s zero percent. It doesn’t get to the international line," Anwar said.

CNN tried calling several contacts with Gaza numbers over the last hour, both over international calling and over WhatsApp. On the international calls, they either go straight to voicemail or an automated message says “the number you are calling is currently unreachable. Please try again later.”

WhatsApp and iMessage are not delivering, and when using the internet to call, it just rings endlessly.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-27-23/h_dbbf852de6de3b8753a6a9f31a31e335

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (4 children)

maybe-later-honey 🍷 🍷 maybe-later-kiddo

If Palestine didn't want to be genocided, maybe they shouldn't harbor Hamas terrorists, sweetie.

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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Jesus.. I make one upvoted comment on reddit-logo and there are 50 replies from zionists and open fascists... Legitimately, how will there ever be communism if this 1/4 need years of reeducation and unshitting their brains??

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Al-Qassam Brigades: Our forces are currently engaged in violent clashes using machine guns & anti-tank weapons with the occupation forces, penetrating northwest Gaza.

[–] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IDF just doing war crimes bombing hospitals, and even reporting on it, much less a sternly worded letter is going 'too far' and uncivil.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Sabereen News:

— Leader of the Hamas movement, Musa Abu Marzouk: There are members of the Palestinian Authority and some Arab countries who are secretly calling on the West to eliminate Hamas.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've been noticing an increasing number of people boycotting American media altogether for all the wrong reasons. They mostly claim it's "American woke culture" trying to brainwash their kids into being lgbt. This has lead to more emphasis on Mexican, Korean, and occasionally Chinese media.

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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Boiling down to fundamentals I've encountered two types of arguments in the past few weeks:

Hamas is beheading babies, so retaliation makes sense, Israel has a right to defend itself, Jewish people are entitled to their homeland

deranged, out of touch with reality, historically ignorant

Well Hamas is a conservative islamic organization led by dudes living in Qatar, so they would just create their own apartheid ethnostate lead by rich palestinians

this is just bizarre radlib bothsidesing using a hypothetical outcome to Hamas winning and them not being perfect secular social democrats

And this made me realize that the biggest propaganda achievement by Israel and the US has been convincing people that this is between Israel and Hamas, and not an anti-apartheid insurrection that happens to be led by Hamas among others.

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[–] theother2020@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Trump Jr posted a super racist disgusting anti-Palestine tweet.

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Comparing how China handles their real estate issues with how Canada handles their real estate issues is really enlightening.

“We are going to be left with so many units,” she said in an interview. “And people have these terribly high variable rate mortgages where long-term income won’t be able to cover the mortgages on these properties. Owners will be cash flow negative.

“We will see that – or we will see a ton of [these units] hitting the real estate market, depreciating the values of them. And I don’t think people are going to cash out equal to the mortgage they owe on the property, so investors will be walking away with empty pockets. It’s terrible.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/vancouver/article-bcs-airbnb-crackdown-will-devastate-some-real-estate-investors/

Imagine complaining that your speculative investment got fucked

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[–] StalinistApologist@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Oh, you support sending tanks into Gaza or to Ukraine? Goddamn tankie.

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