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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
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English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

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Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

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Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

IDF tanks are storming Gaza from all eastern and northern directions. A major battle is currently taking place in the area of the separation fence.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I guess we're at the "collateral damage" phase of the war.

I heard the phrase for the first time on American tv news ~1 minute ago.

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[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

have people seen this thing about the national march on washington for palestine? are people planning on joining, do we know if there's a way to help out without actually going (because i am immunocompromised and very sick rn)

should someone make this a post and pin it maybe?

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago
[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Famous last words: https://nitter.cz/plovejet/status/1718348201504166161

I swear to God one of the most exciting parts about entering Gaza will be the fact I won't be on Twitter and seeing all the god awful takes on this conflict.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Rules based international order! A tale of two votes

Condemning Russia:

Calling for a Humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza:

The UN Secretary-General called for a humanitarian ceasefire (the bare minimum, really). The US and Israel among other western countries are against it.

We already knew the rules based world is complete bullshit, here's yet more proof that the western power elite is as morally corrupt as they come.

When I think about protecting the security of the United States and the world, I am clear-eyed. One of our defining missions is to strengthen the international rules-based order — to defend it, to promote it, and to build on it.

The absolute gall of these fuckers.

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[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago
[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

Footage shows crowds, displaced people at threathened al-Quds Hospital

Aerial footage of al-Quds Hospital shows significant gathering of displaced individuals seeking refuge in the hospital’s courtyards.

Hospital authorities report receiving five warnings from the Israeli army, with warnings that the premises will be bombed imminently. The hospital is located in Tal al-Hawa, in Gaza City, and affiliated with the Palestinian Red Crescent. Hundreds of citizens have flocked to the hospital as it continues to admit victims of the ongoing Israeli bombardment in Gaza.

The footage, shot hours before the Israeli threats and obtained by Al Jazeera on Sunday, also reveal the presence of ambulances and medical teams stationed at the hospital’s entrance. The hospital is sheltering 12,000 displaced civilians, with a majority being children and women.

Sounds like a misfired PIJ rocket is going to go off soon, why would the PIJ do this thonk

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (28 children)

My anti-Zionist jewish friend sent me this tumblr post from another anti-Zionist jew talking about the "how to be Anti-Zionist without being antisemetic" subject, and told me its the first one of those posts that she's largely agreed with.

My friend asks that y'all not leave comments or anything please :)

I think its interesting that the post says that the "they can just go back, dual citizenship" rhetoric that Ive seen people here using is a problem because it doesnt reflect reality.

Person seems to be pretty comited to ending aparthied so I dont think they're coming at this in bad faith. And so I think these are good points to keep in mind.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Rybar analysis on the prisoners situation.

🇮🇱🇮🇷 🇵🇸 The head of the Iranian Foreign Ministry, while in New York, made an important statement that could change the situation in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

▪️ Palestinian factions have announced their readiness to release non-military hostages to Iran.

▪️ In return, Hamas declares its willingness to negotiate through the mediation of Qatar and Turkey and demands the release of six thousand Palestinian hostages from Israeli prisons.

▪️ The Palestinians, who were once seen as terrorists by the international community, are now showing their willingness to negotiate and make a gesture of goodwill.

▪️ Russia and China have gained points by advocating for the release of hostages during the negotiations. Iran, Qatar, and Turkey are also involved in this process.

🔻The Israelis are now finding it extremely inconvenient to sell the narrative that the Palestinians are terrorists, especially since the population seems to have forgotten the events of October 7-8 amidst the extensive bombing of the Gaza Strip.

It is becoming more difficult to dismiss the need to negotiate with Hamas, as public opinion is shifting towards the belief that it is possible to engage with the Palestinians diplomatically.

In the course of the 19-day conflict, the role of the "aggressor" has shifted from the Arabs to the Israelis. While the former are striving for negotiations, the latter's behavior is becoming increasingly inappropriate.

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[–] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Still think this is one of the funniest things Ive seen on twitter

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago

Israeli media: Initial report about a soldier who was captured during Israeli army activity in the Bureij camp in Gaza!

Confirmed in Israeli media, at least 1 soldier was captured by Hamas during this operation.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

David Mencer, former director of Labour Friends of Israel, had an extremely normal one when invited on TalkTV to discuss the growing calls for Labour to back a ceasefire. Seriously, it has to be seen to be believed.

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[–] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The Czech Republic wants to leave the UN because only 14 countries support genocide.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Israeli Communications Minister announced severance of ties with Space X due to Musk's decision to use Starlink systems in Gaza - Reuters

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

🇮🇱⚔️🇵🇸Member of the Hamas Political Bureau, Hossam Badran, sends an urgent appeal to the Palestinian people in the West Bank: “This is the time for weapons.”

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[–] CoralMarks@hexbear.net 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Slovakia announces the end of military aid to Ukraine

rest of articleSlovakia has until now been a staunch supporter of Kyiv since Russia invaded in February last year, donating arms and opening its borders for refugees fleeing the war.

Slovakia has announced the end of military aid to Ukraine. A country of 5.5 million people which shares a border with Ukraine, Slovakia has until now been a staunch supporter of Kyiv since Russia invaded in February last year, donating arms and opening its borders for refugees fleeing the war.

Slovakia’s president swore in a new government Wednesday, led by a former populist prime minister Robert Fico.

There are concerns the victory of Fico's Smer, or Direction, Party in September's election could mark a dramatic turnaround in the country’s foreign policy and strain a fragile unity in the European Union and NATO.

He opposes EU sanctions on Russia, questions whether Ukraine can force out the invading Russian troops and wants to block Ukraine from joining NATO.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

Someone needs to make a Saddam's hiding place meme out of the Israeli tunnels 3d renders.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Israeli media: An Israeli interceptor missile almost brought down a passenger plane

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[–] sempersigh@hexbear.net 48 points 2 years ago

They should invent a gun that kills everyone in the IOF when you pull the trigger

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